Vision of Hell (Page 2)

Eclipse

In this vision I saw a light above me and in the corner of my eye I noticed something moving. I quickly focused on what was moving and realised that it was darkness starting to eclipse the light. I started to say to myself “the darkness is eclipsing the light” and I expected it to totally block out the light. But when the darkness covered half of the light it stopped. So I was faced with darkness on my right and light on my left. I then said to myself “I know what you are saying to me God, You’re saying that I have a choice I can either choose the Light or the Darkness”. So I thought to myself which one.

In Revelation 2:11 it says
“Let the person who has ears listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. Everyone who wins the victory will never be hurt by the second death.

I then said to God “You have shown me Heaven and I have seen your light before and I would love to see more, but I am curious about the darkness and what it is like?” All of a sudden I was in the darkness and there was no light to be seen anywhere. I was shocked to be there and I said to God something like: “I only thought about coming here and now I am here, I didn’t expect that”. I was instantly transported there just by thinking about it, no time to change my mind. I then thought to myself, oh well I’m here now so I might as well find out what it is all about. As I said before it was pitch black and I could not see any light.

I stood in the darkness for about 5 seconds and couldn’t see anything or feel anything. It was a little bit frightening at that stage but I was unsure of what was going on. I then thought to myself maybe I should leave as there is nothing here and what was the point of this experience. Then all of a sudden I saw something in the darkness. So I focused as hard as I could to see what it was. I then saw the form of a person and I focused and found the face of this person. I started to think, perhaps this is a person in hell? I kept focusing on this persons face and then I saw the persons eyes. All of a sudden I had the most horrible and frightening experience in my life. When I looked into this persons eyes I saw and felt the horror of Hell in an instant. I was absolutely shocking. With that I said “I am leaving” and I was once again faced with light on my left hand side and darkness on my right.

I stood motionless as I got my thoughts together and tried to understand what just happened. I said to myself “What was that horror that I experienced”. I know it was terrible beyond words yet almost straight away I started to forget how bad it was and I said ” I am going back inside and I am going to face this fear and this time I will overcome it for God is with me.” Again I saw this person and again I looked into the persons eyes and the horror happened again. It was like there was an invisible river of pure evil flowing through this persons being and he was in an absolute state of horror himself. Or maybe it was better described as a vacuum there there was no God. The only way I can explain it is to say this. Imagine the goodness, love, wisdom, friendship, peace, joy, and harmony. Well these things did not exist in this place, not even an inch of these things existed. It was just a state of no God. It was pure darkness, suffering and torment. The lack of God is absolutely the most frightening thing you can experience. After this I just wanted to get out and the vision came to an end. Upon reflection, I know what I experienced was really just being totally cut off from Gods goodness. This is way more frightening than you can imagine..

Death when translated means separation and physical death is when your soul is separated from your body. The second death is where your soul is separate from God and all his goodness. Once separated from the God of the Living, you obviously are cut off from his eternal life and goodness.

You see my friend when you travel down the road of sin, your destination is torment followed by destruction. You will suffer in the darkness with time to contemplate, then be cast away from God and his Kingdom forever after the Judgement and never to be given life again. This revelation satisfied my curiosity about the darkness and evil and I am totally convinced that it is not the way to go. Yet I see people every day living sinful lives and not caring about eternal things. How sorry those people will be if they do not turn from their sins and turn to God who can save them from sin and evil.

Years later I really regret not choosing the Light when I saw it the second time in this vision, I believe I would have seen much more of the wonderful glories of Heaven that I had in an earlier vision. But this chance never happened again. I do however feel very fortunate to have experienced both sides (light and darkness). I believe too that God showed me these things because I desired to know the truth with all my heart and he wanted me to tell others about the light and the darkness. In  Matthew 7:7 it says

“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Conclusion

The day after my vision of Hell I started to see that in this world we have hope and there are good things to enjoy like love. We can eat nice food and enjoy a measure of good things. But the best thing we have is the ability to ask God for forgiveness for our sins. It is not to late for us. Once we die and your life is over then there is nothing more you can do and the book that records your life is finished.My guess is that all who are in Hell would do anything to be where you are now, i.e., to have the chance to choose God. You are in a privileged position because you can change the course of your life right now.

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  • #103009
     Tiffany 
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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 27 2008,00:04)

    Quote (John3:3 @ Aug. 23 2008,03:11)
    T8, I was shown a waking vision of Hell in 1978 when I became saved. My experience sounds very close to yours. Total Blackness, Indescribable physical and mental torment and having your concious mind stripped of anything that was ever good, lovely or pure in this world during your lifetime. Only the memory of evil and sin and the realization that there is no more time, just an eternal NOW. Only way I can describe the pain is like every atom of your being is on fire. The pain is so terrible you cannot put it in human terms. Human terms are finite, and the suffering is infinite, because the God that you sinned against is infinite.

    The “worm that dieth not” rips at your mind with all the chances to accept Christ in this life that you rejected. Every second of every day you lived was a chance that you had to accept Christ and give him your heart and life.

    4 words echo through your mind for eternity “THERE IS NO HOPE”

    This terrible fate will never let up, never subside, never cease.

    How great and awesome is the foregiveness for our eternal sins that Jesus paid on the cross by his eternal sacrifice!!!  We will never fully know in this lifetime I can assure you.

    Thanks for sharing that. In my vision, I knew what it was like to experience no love, no light, no hope, and it was truly terrible beyond description. A sort of negative dimension if you can consider our existence a positive one because of God's love and mercy for us.

    But I think this torment does end because Death and Hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire, the second death.

    This hell is a temporary abode of the wicked, till the Lake of Fire judgement. Then will the saying come to pass that the wicked will perish. “That the wicked shall be destroyed.”


    t8 You have a good understanding of the Lake of Fire. In Micah it says the the Saints will trample on the Ashes of the wicked. I have often wondered how we will have to clean up the earth after the destruction of the wicked. Will all happen in a twinkling of the eye, or will it take time?
    What do you think?
    Peace and Love Irene

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     t8 
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    Good question but of course any answer is only speculation on my part.

    In order for people to inhabit earth, it might need a quick cleansing process. Sounds to me like the Tribulation period will transform the earth into a death zone. Poisonous water, scorched plants, etc.

    But perhaps after the planet is inhabitable, the work begins to rebuild cities etc. That could take time.

    The first time round, God made all things and then placed man in paradise. Maybe it won't be so different this time except that there will be more than 2 people to start with.

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     John3:3 
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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 27 2008,00:04)

    Quote (John3:3 @ Aug. 23 2008,03:11)
    T8, I was shown a waking vision of Hell in 1978 when I became saved. My experience sounds very close to yours. Total Blackness, Indescribable physical and mental torment and having your concious mind stripped of anything that was ever good, lovely or pure in this world during your lifetime. Only the memory of evil and sin and the realization that there is no more time, just an eternal NOW. Only way I can describe the pain is like every atom of your being is on fire. The pain is so terrible you cannot put it in human terms. Human terms are finite, and the suffering is infinite, because the God that you sinned against is infinite.

    The “worm that dieth not” rips at your mind with all the chances to accept Christ in this life that you rejected. Every second of every day you lived was a chance that you had to accept Christ and give him your heart and life.

    4 words echo through your mind for eternity “THERE IS NO HOPE”

    This terrible fate will never let up, never subside, never cease.

    How great and awesome is the foregiveness for our eternal sins that Jesus paid on the cross by his eternal sacrifice!!!  We will never fully know in this lifetime I can assure you.

    Thanks for sharing that. In my vision, I knew what it was like to experience no love, no light, no hope, and it was truly terrible beyond description. A sort of negative dimension if you can consider our existence a positive one because of God's love and mercy for us.

    But I think this torment does end because Death and Hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire, the second death.

    This hell is a temporary abode of the wicked, till the Lake of Fire judgement. Then will the saying come to pass that the wicked will perish. “That the wicked shall be destroyed.”


    Some people think that there will be an eventual end to the punishment in Hell (generic term I am using for Sheol,Hades,Gehenna), when these are cast into the lake of fire.This is the doctrine of annhilation.

    When Death and Hell are cast into the lake of fire along with Satan, The Antichrist and the False Prophet, as it mentions in Revelation, my belief is that the temporary holding place for the unrightous dead (Hades,Gehenna,Sheol) will no longer be needed. This does not, however, mean that the Lake of Fire is any less of a punishment or that there will be an end to the torment of the wicked.

    Many people have a problem reconciling God's love with the idea that God/Jesus can cast those that reject Jesus into Hell to suffer an unspeakable fate forever.

    God is a God of love, no doubt, and he is also a God of Mercy and Justice. Those that have heard the Gospel and still don't accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior by faith alone as the only way to heaven will have rejected God's mercy and foregiveness and only his wrath (Justice) awaits them after they die.

    I would like to believe that there will be an eventual end to the suffering that those in Hell/ Lake of Fire will experience, and I wrestled with this for a long tiime after I received the vision of Hell.

    The Holy Spirit eventually gave me the wisdom to understand, although it's still diffcult to comprehend, the fact that when we willfully sin against God, even one sin, there can never be a way to pay it off by any amount of suffering in this life or the next. Our mortal minds cannot fully understand how aggregious to God even one sin is.

    Look at what the consquences of 1 sin committed in the Garden of Eden has done to mankind for the rest of history. that will give you perhaps a small idea of what I am talking about.

    The question that many should be asking God rather than “How could you send a person to Hell to suffer for eternity” should be “Why should ANYONE deserve to go to heaven after sinning against a God that is infinite”

    A sin may take only a momemt to commit, but it is a sin against an infinite God and therefore the sin is infinite. That is why man can not “work or suffer off his sins” . Man is a finite creation and sin is an infinite debt.

    That is why Jesus Christ,as God incarnate, had to die in our place and why God laid the sin debt for the whole world on Jesus while he was on the cross. The infinite nature of Jesus paid the infinite debt that we cannot pay.

    That is why, when one rejects Jesus, he must pay infinitely for his sins. To believe otherwise, gives one hope, even if that hope is for annihlation eventually. In Hell, There is no hope, as I mentioned previously.

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     theodorej 
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    Quote (John3:3 @ Sep. 05 2008,05:27)

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 27 2008,00:04)

    Quote (John3:3 @ Aug. 23 2008,03:11)
    T8, I was shown a waking vision of Hell in 1978 when I became saved. My experience sounds very close to yours. Total Blackness, Indescribable physical and mental torment and having your concious mind stripped of anything that was ever good, lovely or pure in this world during your lifetime. Only the memory of evil and sin and the realization that there is no more time, just an eternal NOW. Only way I can describe the pain is like every atom of your being is on fire. The pain is so terrible you cannot put it in human terms. Human terms are finite, and the suffering is infinite, because the God that you sinned against is infinite.

    The “worm that dieth not” rips at your mind with all the chances to accept Christ in this life that you rejected. Every second of every day you lived was a chance that you had to accept Christ and give him your heart and life.

    4 words echo through your mind for eternity “THERE IS NO HOPE”

    This terrible fate will never let up, never subside, never cease.

    How great and awesome is the foregiveness for our eternal sins that Jesus paid on the cross by his eternal sacrifice!!!  We will never fully know in this lifetime I can assure you.

    Thanks for sharing that. In my vision, I knew what it was like to experience no love, no light, no hope, and it was truly terrible beyond description. A sort of negative dimension if you can consider our existence a positive one because of God's love and mercy for us.

    But I think this torment does end because Death and Hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire, the second death.

    This hell is a temporary abode of the wicked, till the Lake of Fire judgement. Then will the saying come to pass that the wicked will perish. “That the wicked shall be destroyed.”


    Some people think that there will be an eventual end to the punishment in Hell (generic term I am using for Sheol,Hades,Gehenna), when these are cast into the lake of fire.This is the doctrine of annhilation.

    When Death and Hell are cast into the lake of fire along with Satan, The Antichrist and the False Prophet, as it mentions in Revelation, my belief is that the temporary holding place for the unrightous dead (Hades,Gehenna,Sheol) will no longer be needed. This does not, however, mean that the Lake of Fire is any less of a punishment or that there will be an end to the torment of the wicked.

    Many people have a problem reconciling God's love with the idea that God/Jesus can cast those that reject Jesus into Hell to suffer an unspeakable fate forever.

    God is a God of love, no doubt, and he is also a God of Mercy and Justice. Those that have heard the Gospel and still don't accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior by faith alone as the only way to heaven will have rejected God's mercy and foregiveness and only his wrath (Justice) awaits them after they die.

    I would like to believe that there will be an eventual end to the suffering that those in Hell/ Lake of Fire will experience, and I wrestled with this for a long tiime after I received the vision of Hell.

    The Holy Spirit eventually gave me the wisdom to understand, although it's still diffcult to comprehend, the fact that when we willfully sin against God, even one sin, there can never be a way to pay it off by any amount of suffering in this life or the next. Our mortal minds cannot fully understand how aggregious to God even one sin is.

    Look at what the consquences of 1 sin committed in the Garden of Eden has done to mankind for the rest of history. that will give you perhaps a small idea of what I am talking about.

    The question that many should be asking God rather than “How could you send a person to Hell to suffer for eternity” should be “Why should ANYONE deserve to go to heaven after sinning against a God that is infinite”

    A sin may take only a momemt to commit, but it is a sin against an infinite God and therefore the sin is infinite. That is why man can not “work or suffer off his sins” . Man is a finite creation and sin is an infinite debt.

    That is why Jesus Christ,as God incarnate, had to die in our place and why God laid the sin debt for the whole world on Jesus while he was on the cross. The infinite nature of Jesus paid the infinite debt that we cannot pay.

    That is why, when one rejects Jesus, he must pay infinitely for his sins. To believe otherwise, gives one hope, even if that hope is for annihlation eventually. In Hell, There is no hope, as I mentioned previously.


    Greetings John….You present a frightning scenerio of which there is no hope….I fail to see a loving mercifull God in your depiction of death and hell…of which Iam not sure is opened for business yet….( Hell that is )…”For the dead no nothing”,I would think that scripture means just.. that !
    The scripture is saying they know No torment they are just asleep…awaiting a resurection to judgement…At which time all will have an opportunity to know God through Jesus' rule over his kingdom/government of which he will preside as King of Kings and Lord of Lords..There will those who reject Gods government/kingdom,they will be cast into the lake of fire and consumed never to exist again…

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     John3:3 
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    Quote (theodorej @ Sep. 05 2008,22:47)

    Quote (John3:3 @ Sep. 05 2008,05:27)

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 27 2008,00:04)

    Quote (John3:3 @ Aug. 23 2008,03:11)
    T8, I was shown a waking vision of Hell in 1978 when I became saved. My experience sounds very close to yours. Total Blackness, Indescribable physical and mental torment and having your concious mind stripped of anything that was ever good, lovely or pure in this world during your lifetime. Only the memory of evil and sin and the realization that there is no more time, just an eternal NOW. Only way I can describe the pain is like every atom of your being is on fire. The pain is so terrible you cannot put it in human terms. Human terms are finite, and the suffering is infinite, because the God that you sinned against is infinite.

    The “worm that dieth not” rips at your mind with all the chances to accept Christ in this life that you rejected. Every second of every day you lived was a chance that you had to accept Christ and give him your heart and life.

    4 words echo through your mind for eternity “THERE IS NO HOPE”

    This terrible fate will never let up, never subside, never cease.

    How great and awesome is the foregiveness for our eternal sins that Jesus paid on the cross by his eternal sacrifice!!!  We will never fully know in this lifetime I can assure you.

    Thanks for sharing that. In my vision, I knew what it was like to experience no love, no light, no hope, and it was truly terrible beyond description. A sort of negative dimension if you can consider our existence a positive one because of God's love and mercy for us.

    But I think this torment does end because Death and Hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire, the second death.

    This hell is a temporary abode of the wicked, till the Lake of Fire judgement. Then will the saying come to pass that the wicked will perish. “That the wicked shall be destroyed.”


    Some people think that there will be an eventual end to the punishment in Hell (generic term I am using for Sheol,Hades,Gehenna), when these are cast into the lake of fire.This is the doctrine of annhilation.

    When Death and Hell are cast into the lake of fire along with Satan, The Antichrist and the False Prophet, as it mentions in Revelation, my belief is that the temporary holding place for the unrightous dead (Hades,Gehenna,Sheol) will no longer be needed. This does not, however, mean that the Lake of Fire is any less of a punishment or that there will be an end to the torment of the wicked.

    Many people have a problem reconciling God's love with the idea that God/Jesus can cast those that reject Jesus into Hell to suffer an unspeakable fate forever.

    God is a God of love, no doubt, and he is also a God of Mercy and Justice. Those that have heard the Gospel and still don't accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior by faith alone as the only way to heaven will have rejected God's mercy and foregiveness and only his wrath (Justice) awaits them after they die.

    I would like to believe that there will be an eventual end to the suffering that those in Hell/ Lake of Fire will experience, and I wrestled with this for a long tiime after I received the vision of Hell.

    The Holy Spirit eventually gave me the wisdom to understand, although it's still diffcult to comprehend, the fact that when we willfully sin against God, even one sin, there can never be a way to pay it off by any amount of suffering in this life or the next. Our mortal minds cannot fully understand how aggregious to God even one sin is.

    Look at what the consquences of 1 sin committed in the Garden of Eden has done to mankind for the rest of history. that will give you perhaps a small idea of what I am talking about.

    The question that many should be asking God rather than “How could you send a person to Hell to suffer for eternity” should be “Why should ANYONE deserve to go to heaven after sinning against a God that is infinite”

    A sin may take only a momemt to commit, but it is a sin against an infinite God and therefore the sin is infinite. That is why man can not “work or suffer off his sins” . Man is a finite creation and sin is an infinite debt.

    That is why Jesus Christ,as God incarnate, had to die in our place and why God laid the sin debt for the whole world on Jesus while he was on the cross. The infinite nature of Jesus paid the infinite debt that we cannot pay.

    That is why, when one rejects Jesus, he must pay infinitely for his sins. To believe otherwise, gives one hope, even if that hope is for annihlation eventually. In Hell, There is no hope, as I mentioned previously.


    Greetings John….You present a frightning scenerio of which there is no hope….I fail to see a loving mercifull God in your depiction of death and hell…of which Iam not sure is opened for business yet….( Hell that is )…”For the dead no nothing”,I  would think that  scripture means just.. that !
    The scripture is saying they know No torment they are just asleep…awaiting a resurection to judgement…At which time all will have an opportunity to know God through Jesus' rule over his kingdom/government of which he will preside as King of Kings and Lord of Lords..There will those who reject Gods government/kingdom,they will be cast into the lake of fire and consumed never to exist again…


    Thanks Theodorej,

    You know, these types of visions doesn't go over very well with the average person. I have actually only told a few people about it over the years because I don't really think it will make a difference to most people. (As in the case of the Rich man in Luke asking if he can warn his brothers)

    The Holy Spirit needs to draw people to God and all we can do as Christians is be available to speak to people that are searching for God to point our the true way of salvation and try to live out the Christian ideal everyday so as not to ruin our testimony.

    I think there are a small percentage of people that will accept Christ as savior for fear of going to Hell. If they truly are converted, the Holy Spirit will lead them into all truth and show them the unbounding love that God and Jesus have for all mankind.

    There is a lot I can't explain about what the Lord revealed to me but all I can do is share what I know with whomever is willing to listen. People need to know what it is that they are being saved from. If they don't believe there is a Hell, what's the motivation?

    That is actually how I received this vision. I was filled with the spirit (Had no clue what that was at the time either) when I got saved and while meditating and thanking Jesus for what he has done for me about an hour after I accepted Christ, I heard a distinctive voice in my head saying “Ask me anything you want”

    The only thing I could think of asking was “What was I saved from”? (My concept of Hell awas a guy in a red suit running around w/ a pitchfork being really mean to the murderers etc. there)

    Then I was prompted by the Holy Spirit to close my eyes and in an instant
    I was there!

    Everyone wants to hear about how wonderful heaven will be but nobody really likes to talk about the only other alternative, the one that Jesus said will be the fate of the majority of people. I do not wish Hell as a fate for even the most vile person that ever lived on th earth.

    I know purgatory is a false teaching, but I kinda wish it was true. The end is final when their books are closed, when people arrive in Hell they fully know why they are there. Paul says in Romans “They are without excuse” and that is the truth.

    I would much rather talk about God's love, grace and Mercy he freely gives us everyday.

    Whenever the Lord does give me a chance to witness to people about becoming Born Again and accepting Jesus as the only way to heaven, I do not give them a Hellfire and Brimstone speech, but I do bring up the fact that Hell is a real place and Jesus mentioned Hell in the bible more than he did Heaven.

    I really feel like the time is growing short and we need to get the word out about to all we can. All of us need to pray for each other to boldly speak the word of truth.

    There is so much false teaching out there that is is really scary how many people are being led away from the truth.

    Sorry for the long soapbox. I'll get off now

    :) :)

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     Not3in1 
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    John 3 – WELCOME!

    Glad that you are here,
    Mandy

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    I really enjoy your take on the scriptures. It’s very refreshing. You defy the age old held beliefs and challenge them with logic and intellect . I’m sure you’ve upset more than a few clergymen with these precise views you have . It’s interesting too that you seem to be in line with the beliefs of the Jehovah’s witnesses.

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    Thanks David. I also agree with many denominations and even cults on certain things because many of these cults and denominations agree or confess that Jesus is the son of God, the messiah, and the Lord. I also agree as do the JWs that the Trinity is a false doctrine. But on many of their other doctrines and ideas, I do not agree with or should I say more accurately, I do not see them in scripture. I guess that all cults, denominations, and belief systems have elements of truth.

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