Old Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell

Part 01 – Is Hell eternal?
Part 02 – Scriptures used to support an eternal Hell
Part 03
 – New Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 04 – Old Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 05 – Other resources about Hell

The traditional view of Hell is that God burns sinners in a never-ending fire and for every second of eternity, they consciously suffer excruciating pain. But is this true or is it just another traditional teaching that doesn’t add up when you look at scripture? I would like to start with the following scripture to show how the traditional view is often at odds with God and scripture.

Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

Now we will take a look at a list of scriptures that seem at odds with the traditional idea of the nature of Hell. Remember we have already learned in the previous page that Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire which is the Second Death. But even ignoring that Hell will suffer the Second Death and what that entails, these scriptures below dispel the idea that the wicked are consciously eternally tormented. Read on:


Psalms 21:9
“Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.”

To be devoured means to be consumed so that what is consumed is no longer there.

Psalms 37:10
“For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”

If the wicked shall not be, then it means what it says. They will no longer exist.

Malachi 4:1
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” 

Once the wicked receive their reward for their sins, Yahweh will burn them up. When you burn up something, it simply means that there is nothing left to burn. When you burn a log of wood, at the point the log burns up, it is no longer a log, rather ashes.

Ezekiel 28:18
“Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”

If a person is brought to ashes, then they have been consumed by fire and no longer exist.

Psalms 37:20
“But the wicked will perish:
   Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field,
   they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.” 

Isaiah 47:14
Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up.

Again, the wicked shall be burned up.

Psalms 68:2
“As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.”

Psalms 104:35
“Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”

Again, the wicked will be no more because they will perish. It is clear that the wicked will not exist eternally in a place of punishment.

Psalms 145:20
“The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.”

Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”

So the soul that sins (and is not forgiven) it will die. That soul will be destroyed.

Ezekiel 28:19
“All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.”

Nahum 1:9-10
“What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.”

In this page, you have been shown Old Testament scriptures that clearly teach that the wicked will be burned up, turn to ashes, be destroyed, perish, and will be no more.

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  • #782319
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    Ok..you say these Scriptures dispel the traditional view of an eternal hell (and I WILL take a look at them..) but why do I feel like you’re avoiding the actual meaning of the word ‘destruction’ as found in any Bible Dictionary you happen to pick up…which puts it very black and white – not annihilation, not extinction..!!??

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    ..you’re saying that the idea/belief of hell being eternal is not true, but rather a Christian ‘Tradition’ handed down to us..

    you mention the ‘Second death’ – hell thrown into the lake of fire..but we know from Rev. 20:10 that the torment of this second death is an everlasting torment, “..and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

    From the Scriptures you quote it’s quite obvious to me they are referring to the sinners life on earth, that will be destroyed by fire..(Psalm 104:35 “…sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH..” – Ezekiel 28:18 “…and I will bring thee to ashes UPON THE EARTH..”) I really don’t see how you can use these verses to say that all the souls in hell will be ‘annihilated’ at the second death – there’s just no relevance or connection to hell or the after-life at all..

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    Matthew 7:13,14
    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”

    Clearly the righteous inherit eternal life. But the traditional view which you support would have me believe that the wicked also have eternal life. The only difference being where that eternal life is spent. I do not hold this view and I am yet to see a verse that says humans have an eternal soul. Eternal life is a gift, not something that is inherent. And the reason for that is that he gives eternal life only to the righteous because if he gave eternal life to the wicked too, then that means that they would live eternally as sinners which is clearly not biblical.

    I believe what this verse is teaching us polar opposites, (life & destruction) whereas the popular view is that there is no difference in meaning with the only difference being location of where that eternal life is spent.

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    Thanks David. I am going to write a third page which deals with your concerns in this post.

    It will be called something like,
    “Scriptures used to support eternal suffering in Hell”.

    #782323
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    really you are getting mixed up in the meaning of words..the righteous inherit eternal life – the wicked eternal death.. eternal separation from God..

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    man died the day he ate the fruit in the garden.. spiritually he was separated from God ..Lake of fire – SECOND death..ETERNAL separation..FOREVER..

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    There are some pretty scary verses concerning hell, Rev. 14:10-11 says, “The same [those that worship the beast or receive his mark] shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone [reference to second death – Rev. 21:8] in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: AND THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT [they are clearly not annihilated but are experiencing the never-ending reality of this tormented existence], who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
    The last verse of Isaiah states, “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against Me: [obviously dead bodies] for their worm shall not die [but while they have ceased to exist on the earth, there is something about them ‘their worm’ – their agony..that shall not die], neither shall their fire [their torment] be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring to all flesh.” ..their bodies deceased – their souls in eternal, unquenchable torment..
    In Matthew hell is referred to as both ‘unquenchable’ fire (3:12), and ‘everlasting’ fire (18:8) Jesus calls this everlasting fire, the fire “prepared for the devil and his angels.” (25:41)..which again is the second death.
    While you say that you see nothing in Scripture to suggest eternal punishment – there is nothing that I’m aware of that says their suffering will ever cease..
    You endeavour to make the verses you’ve shared mean that, but I feel you are confusing, or misunderstanding, the Biblical concept of physical life, with spiritual life and spiritual death…
    Blessings..!!

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    Man began to die yes. But it was some time after that Adam died. If Adam died immediately, then what do you call it when he passed away?

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    These will be the very verses I will provide answers to in the next page (Part 3).

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    David, the soul that sins will die is not just earth based. And if these verses meant they will be no more (On Earth) then why not just say that.

    The truth is that death on earth is only temporal because the wicked will be raised again at the resurrection. Death in the Lake of Fire (the Second Death) on the other hand is eternal and not temporary like the first death. In other words it is permanent and irreversible. It lasts forever and ever. They will never again be raised to life. Surely you would have to agree with that.

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    If you agree that the wicked are cut off from God, then how are they alive? By what spirit do they obtain this eternal life in Hell? And if this is by God’s spirit, then God is in Hell and dwelling in sinners. Sure sinners live, but by the grace of God they have the Pneuma/spirit. But this is not eternal life or the eternal baptism of the Spirit which is eternal life. Rather, the spirit returns to God who gave it. How can a man live without God? Does scripture really teach that the wicked have eternal life in Hell and are kept alive by God’s own spirit for eternity? Is that not the conclusion of the traditional view of Hell? That God lives inside sinners forever just to keep them alive so they can feel pain.

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    ok brother this is what I think… Adam did not BEGIN to die – but the same day he sinned he died..!! (Gen 2:17) That death was spiritual – Adam became separated from God in his spirit.. Adam experienced physical death much later when his soul separated from his body..
    When we receive Jesus and are born again we are connected again in our spirit to God.. of the state we we’re in before we received Christ, Paul says, we were dead (in trespasses and sin).. Jesus says, Whoever believes in Me shall never die.. sure our souls may separate from our bodies in physical death..but we will never know spiritual separation again..

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    I agree with your above post DavidL. And this is what the baptism of the Spirit is about. It is about always being connected to God by a joining of our spirit with his.

    Our spirits bear witness with God’s spirit that we are the sons of God.

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    Yes I agree that the second death as described in Scripture is permanent and irreversible.. I think where the confusion arises is maybe over our different concepts of ‘death’ itself..
    I believe the second death is a permanent state of ongoing separation from God.. whereas I think what you are saying is that the final separation is NOT an ongoing state, but an ‘annihilation’ of the human soul in the lake of fire..
    If this is the way we are thinking then I would say we should look at whether or not the human soul is immortal or whether it CAN indeed cease to exist..
    Personally, although I have never seen a need to study this, I do believe that when God breathed into Adam the breath of life and “man became a living soul” that the living soul created was ‘eternal’ in the image of God – that man was made to live forever.. and when we talk of ‘death’ it is only the body that ceases to exist (until the resurrection).. but the soul continues on forever either in a state of fellowship with God, or in a state of eternal separation from God.. what exactly that state of separation consists of I cannot say, only that I would imagine it to be a similar state as to that of the demonic, or a continuation of the state that those in hell now exist in.. how you would describe that existence is probably how you would describe hell itself – if heaven is the absence of all things evil, then hell must be the absence of all things godly.. a state of ‘being’ where every characteristic of God – love, goodness, kindness, comfort, beauty, joy, peace, holiness, truth, pleasure.. is completely and utterly absent, for ever and ever and ever.. this is hell..!! (as I understand it)..
    Blessings..!!

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    I think the point in question maybe whether or not we have an ‘eternal’ soul..? reaching a conclusion on this should help us to understand better the nature of hell and the meaning of death..

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