Is Hell eternal? (Page 31)

Hell Fire

Part 01 – Is Hell eternal?
Part 02 – Scriptures used to support an eternal Hell
Part 03
 – New Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 04 – Old Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 05 – Other resources about Hell

NOTE: This writing was taken from our old site and substantially restructured. The same basic argument remains which is a refutation that God will make the wicked suffer for all eternity.

This page will let scripture answer the most asked questions on this topic. Following that, we will look at scriptures that are used to support the idea of an eternal Hell to get a balanced view. The last two pages will take a more substantial look at scriptures that talk about the wicked and their fate.


Will the wicked perish?

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

2 Peter 2:12
But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.

Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

In order to understand the word ‘perish’, how is this word used in other biblical topics?

Hebrews 1:10-12
10 He also says, “In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.

Colossians 2:21-22 21
21 Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.

Will the wicked be destroyed?

Matthew 7:13
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Philippians 3:19
Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 
9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power

How is the word ‘destruction’ used in other biblical topics?

1 Corinthians 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

How will the wicked be destroyed?

2 Peter 3:7
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Luke 17:28-30
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

The wicked are cast into hell, but isn’t Hell eternal?

Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hell were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Revelation 21:8
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

So there will be no eternal suffering in hell?

Romans 6:23
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”

Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

So the wicked will cease to exist?

Psalms 104:35
“Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”

Psalms 37:10
“For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”

Adam came to life when he became a living soul, but can a man lose his soul?

Mark 8:36
What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?

1 Peter 1:9
for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

But isn’t the human soul immortal?

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in Hell.

Genesis 3:21-24
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Are you sure that the wicked will be completely consumed or burned up though?

Psalms 37:20
“But the wicked will perish: Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field, they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.”

Malachi 4:1
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.”

Does God want to destroy the wicked?

Ezekiel 33:11
Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn from your evil ways!

2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

Will sin ever happen again once all the wicked are destroyed?

1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

2 Peter 1:4
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

Luke 20:35-36
But those who are considered worthy to share in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In fact, they can no longer die, because they are like the angels. And since they are sons of the resurrection, they are sons of God.

We know that sin causes death and we will no longer die because sin has been dealt with.

1 Corinthians 15:54-55
54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come to pass: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” 55 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”

When will the wicked be completely destroyed?

Matthew 13:40
“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world/age.

2 Peter 3:10.
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

Okay so wicked men will be destroyed along with the old creation, but what about Satan?

Hebrews 2:14
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Ezekiel 28:18
“Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”

The last verse may be referring to a man instead of Satan, however we know that the Devil will be destroyed from the previous verse above.

After reading this page you may argue that I have given scripture, but not all of it. There are of course other verses that seem to teach an eternal hell or eternal suffering for the wicked. The next page will cover these scriptures to provide a balanced view. The last two pages in this study will list the most prominent verses in the Bible that teach that the wicked will be destroyed, perish, and die. There will be many more verses than quoted on this page and they are divided into Old and New Testament verses. These pages will be useful if you wish to study in more depth what scripture says about the fate of the wicked.

This topic contains 478 replies, has 23 voices, and was last updated by  miia 2 days, 21 hours ago.

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  • #822168
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    When Jesus died he was yet alive in the Spirit and he visited the spirits in prison.1peter3.

    And of course Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all who lived in the Spirit are yet alive.

     

    Surely you know this if you too have been given of the Spirit of life?

    #822169
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick…. What i have been given is the “spirit of truth” which is from the FATHER, AND IF HIM WHO RAISED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE ABIDES IN ME, HE THAT RASIED JESUS FROM THE DEAD SHALL ALSO RAISE MY “MORTAL” (DEAD) BODY FROM THE GRAVE.

    The dead “souls” spirits have returned to him who gave it, there bodies went back to the earth, they are dead souls and have not been resurected yet, the only one that has been resurected and came back to life from the grave is Jesus, all the rest in the grave are dead, but their spirits rest in the boosm of the Father. They are no longer living “souls”. Don’t you believe Jesus when he said he was “dead” and “now” is alive. Dead means not alive Nick it means “dead” . You present him as if he never really died, but scripture and Jesus says he did “die”. And Jesus also said after he was resurected he was “not” a spirit. Because spirits do not have flesh and bone bodies as he had and has, spirits are what is in bodies. Why can’t you understand that brother?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #822170
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Do you not agree with scripture when it speaks of those in Christ who sleep in death?

    Some were wakened as with Moses and Elijah on the mountain with the Lord.

    Then there was Nathan who was wakened and spoke with king Saul?

    Then Jesus Christ appeared to Paul on the road to Damascus.

    Do you not believe Jesus visited the spirits in prison?

    The first death for those in Christ is an illusion.

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     t8 
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    Clearly, the human soul is not eternal. Thus man can perish and be no more and the spirit can return to God who gave it.

    The Spirit is what gives life. If God takes it back, then what makes a person alive?

    #822269
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    before the rope breaks you have to be filled with the waters of eternal life.

    Then rivers of life can flow from you.

    #822274
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Those given a share of the Spirit are yet alive,

    Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the Lord Jesus offered as examples

    #822294
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….I do believe Jesus, and he said he was “dead”, does dead mean we are still alive? I alway though a man is either dead or alive, and i don’t think being dead means you are still alive, or maybe Jesus lied when he said he was dead but i don’t think so. Scripture says when a man dies his thoughts parish, so if his thoughts parish how does he think being dead.

    I know about the witch of Endor Nick, but i am not sure what part God had in all that, same with Moses and Elisha on the mount of transfiguration. All thing are possible with God, but other scriptures say when a person is dead he really is dead. I know when our bodies decompose in those graves we are no longer a “living soul” , but i also believe the spirit goes back to him who gave it. And i do believe that spirit is an “it” not a living soul, when it goes back to the Father.

    I also know As you said Jesus said God is not the God of the dead but the living, but that can be taken in several ways, like perhaps it means that God has preserved us somehow for a regeneration of spirit and flesh to be a resurected soul again. Perhaps our death is better looked as a sleep, because of God the Fathers promise of a resurection, so that all of our hope for any future life again, is in him.

    I don’t think we are transfered from one state of life to another state of life at death, as you might Nick, because if that were true why even have a resurection, that will witness the redemption of our BODIES.

    Anyway i put “all” my hopes and trust in the hands of God the Father Nick.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #822297
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Jonah died and went to the pit.

    He yet lives in the Spirit of life.

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….Yes Jonah, was carried by the great fish God had prepared to a pit but was he dead? Who knows. He did remain there for three days and three nights, no scripture says he was dead though. So it would only be an assumption to say he was actually dead, right Nick?

    Jesus was just using the analogy of his time in the grave “dead” before he would be resurected back to life, Nick ì just believe what Jesus said,he said he was “dead” and that to me really means he was “dead” not still alive as you seem to assume brother.

    Nick sceipture say every hair of our head is numbered right?, so why number them if we would not need them again, i believe our complete DNA is recorded for future use. There would be no need to record it if it was not going to be used again would there?

    Anyway we will all know someday right brother?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Jonah was thrown overboard and swallowed by the large fish.

    Three days later he was vomited up onto land by the fish.

    So his body never left the fish for three days

    He was without oxygen for 3 days

     

    Meanwhile he says that he cried of from the depth of Sheol.

    Water encompassed him to the point of death.

    Then his life was brought up from the pit.

     

    So it seems his soul departed from his body in the fish and was rejoined to it before he was vomited up. Jesus used this as a simile to his own death and resurrection so he must want us to understand it.

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick… No scripture says Jesus’ “soul” left his body, that is a speculation brother on your part, not scripturally written. There is not a scripture that says a soul ever leaves a body, because a soul is a body with the breath of life “in” it, according to scriptures. Is it not prophesied in scripture, that God would not leave Jesus’ soul in the grave to see coruption? The spirit does not corrupt in the grave, it goes back to him who gave it, Jesus said unto the Father, “i commend my “spirit” into they hands”, but the flesh body does corrupt the grave Nick and God the Father did not let Jesus’ body see corruption, he resurected it before it did. Why?, because Jesus did no sin, therefore his body was not subject to coruption even though he did die, but not for his sins but ours, so God did not allow his body to see corruption in the grave. He was resurected after the three days and nights time in the grave past, as a complete living “soul”. Just like he was before he died.

    Nick no living soul is with out a body of some kind, that is why after we die, and our bodies do corupt in the grave, then we must be resurected with a new “body” before we can become a living “soul” again. Read the valley of dried bones, those who have seen coruption of there bodies must recieve new “bodies” again in order to become living souls again. The new bodies will be spiritually generated, from God the Father, as Adam and Jesus’ was, with that same DNA. All of our DNA is recorded, so we can be regenerated Nick. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #822302
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    It sounds like your dogmas talking. No mention of DNA in scripture but your idea has become fact to you?

    Did Jesus,  alive in the Spirit, visit the spirits in prison while his body was in the grave?

     

    Peter said so.

    #822303
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Acts 2.27

    “Because you will not abandon my soul to Hades

    NOR allow your holy one to undergo decay.

     

    …he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ

    that he was neither abandoned to Hades,

    NOR did  his flesh undergo decay.”

    2 separate issues – the fate of the body and of the soul.

     

    The salvation of the soul is our hope

    1 Peter 1.8

    ..obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.

    #822304
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Speaking of the old and the new bodies

    2 Cor 5.1

    For we know that if the earthly tent, which is our house, is torn down, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven, inasmuch as we, having put it on, will not be found naked. For indeed while we are in this tent, we groan, being burdened, because we do not want to be unclothed but to be clothed, so that what is mortal will be swallowed up by life. Now He Who has prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave us the Spirit as a pledge.

     

    #822314
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….They are not to separate things being mentioned there, it is speaking about the same thing, Jesus soul, his complete being, a body and breath of life in it. When a man dies his thoughts “parish”, i hardly think that means still living Nick. That is what those scriptures are saying to me. Why even have a resurection if it is not needed?

    Peace and love to you and. ……gene

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