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  • #159077
    bodhitharta
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    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.

    #159078
    942767
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins. They were obeying God but they made mistakes. The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days. In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law. If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #159079
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.

    #159080
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Would you judge anyone else if you are resisting the call of Jesus to salvation?

    #159081
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,11:58)
    Hi BD,
    Would you judge anyone else if you are resisting the call of Jesus to salvation?


    Would the real Christians please stand up?

    It is not me who say that the Jews are going to hell it is Christians.

    Will any Jew who says that Jesus is not their Messiah go to Hell?

    Why is that so hard for you to answer yet you seem so sure that you must believe in Jesus for salvation if you are correct then the Orthodox Jew who does not believe that Jesus is their Messiah will be going to hell so just say it or stop insisting that anyone else will be going to hell because the NT says there is no diffrence between Jew and Greek or Jew and gentile.

    So just put up what you believe. If you cannot say that Jews are going to hell that don't believe in Jesus then your whole theology fails.

    #159082
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #159083
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?

    #159084
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter. It is what God says through His Word that is the authority. I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #159085
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?  

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter.  It is what God says through His Word that is the authority.  I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?

    #159086
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:03)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,11:58)
    Hi BD,
    Would you judge anyone else if you are resisting the call of Jesus to salvation?


    Would the real Christians please stand up?

    It is not me who say that the Jews are going to hell it is Christians.

    Will any Jew who says that Jesus is not their Messiah go to Hell?

    Why is that so hard for you to answer yet you seem so sure that you must believe in Jesus for salvation if you are correct then the Orthodox Jew who does not believe that Jesus is their Messiah will be going to hell so just say it or stop insisting that anyone else will be going to hell because the NT says there is no diffrence between Jew and Greek or Jew and gentile.

    So just put up what you believe. If you cannot say that Jews are going to hell that don't believe in Jesus then your whole theology fails.


    Hi BD,
    Read Jn3.
    That is the best offer from God.
    No natural man has any advantage over the Jewish people.

    Why would Jew or gentile refuse it and seal their fate outside of the mercy of God?

    #159087
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?  

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter.  It is what God says through His Word that is the authority.  I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    What does the Word of God say? How do you read?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #159088
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?  

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter.  It is what God says through His Word that is the authority.  I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    What does the Word of God say?  How do you read?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Why are you afraid to answer?

    Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?

    #159089
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Do you know the mercy of God?
    Are you hoping for it yourself?

    #159090
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:24)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?  

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter.  It is what God says through His Word that is the authority.  I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    What does the Word of God say?  How do you read?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Why are you afraid to answer?

    Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    No, I am not afraid to answer. It is not my position to say who is going to hell and who is not.

    The Word of God is the authority, and it states that anyone who does not believe that God has given His Only begotten Son is condemned because he has not believed.

    That is the only answer you are going to get from me.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #159091
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Psalm 17:3, 15
    3 “Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress”.
    15 “As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness”.
    In verse 15 I read “when I awake” to mean the spiritual awaking after the physical death, and I believe “thy likeness” to be Jesus.
    In verse 3 the heart was proved by being tried during a visit in the night and nothing was found or his heart was searched and no sin was found. And the only way a man’s heart can be searched and no sin found is if it is covered with the blood of Jesus Christ. And it is the heart that God weighs not the flesh. And this being in the OT the Jews must have had salvation.

    #159092
    Cindy
    Participant

    BD Why are you so obsessed to want to know if the Jews are going to hell or not? Like Nick and Marty said it is not our place to say who is saved and who is not. Judging is for God to do. The Jewish People are God's People and He is not forsaken them. They have been punished, and if the time with Hitler would not have been cut short, no Jew would be alive today. We should all worry about ourselves rather then anybody else.

    Peace and Love Irene

    #159093
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,14:26)
    Hi BD,
    Do you know the mercy of God?
    Are you hoping for it yourself?


    You didn't answer the question. Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Their Christ going to hell?

    #159094
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,15:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:24)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57)

    Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56)
    Now, we will get serious.

    Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.

    So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.


    Hi BD:

    If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.

    Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins.  They were obeying God but they made mistakes.  The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.

    But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  
    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  
    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days.  In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.

    Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.

    Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law.  If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.


    Hi BD:

    I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:

    Quote
    Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  

    Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  

    Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So gird your loins and say:

    That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.

    You won't do it, will you?

    Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?

    Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?


    Hi BD:

    What does the scripture that I Quoted state?  

    It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter.  It is what God says through His Word that is the authority.  I believe the Word of God is true.

    He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    What does the Word of God say?  How do you read?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Why are you afraid to answer?

    Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?


    Hi BD:

    No, I am not afraid to answer.  It is not my position to say who is going to hell and who is not.  

    The Word of God is the authority, and it states that anyone who does not believe that God has given His Only begotten Son is condemned because he has not believed.

    That is the only answer you are going to get from me.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Your answer is that Jews who do not believe that Jesus is their Christ is going to hell, yet you hesitate to preach what you believe.

    If you cannot even state your definite belief in who will go to hell then how can you preach salvation to anyone?

    Who will go to hell? Will it be just people you don't like?

    Muslims say believe that Jesus is the Christ
    Jews believe that Jesus is a false prophet

    yet you seem eager to speak against muslims and hesitant to speak against Jews. You Hypocrite that is why the Kingdom does not belong to those like you.

    #159095
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Do you predict the judgements of God?

    Salvation is offered to all men so thinking some are better placed is just moving the deckchairs on the Titanic.

    Decide today for Jesus Christ, repent and seek rebirth.

    #159096
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 25 2009,15:09)
    Psalm 17:3, 15
    3 “Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress”.
    15 “As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness”.
    In verse 15 I read “when I awake” to mean the spiritual awaking after the physical death, and I believe “thy likeness” to be Jesus.
    In verse 3 the heart was proved by being tried during a visit in the night and nothing was found or his heart was searched and no sin was found. And the only way a man’s heart can be searched and no sin found is if it is covered with the blood of Jesus Christ. And it is the heart that God weighs not the flesh. And this being in the OT the Jews must have had salvation.


    So you do believe that Jews who do not believe that Jesus is their Christ may not go to hell?

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