The mystery of Melchizedek

Did Jesus Appear in the Old Testament?

(Melchizedek Mystery Revealed?)

This topic contains 43 replies, has 5 voices, and was last updated by  t8 3 weeks, 6 days ago.

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  • #819952
     sonofGod 
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    No, he did not exist until Matthew 1:18.

     

    Of course God foreknew him but foreknowledge is not someone else’s existence

    #819957
     t8 
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    @sonofgod

    Should I believe you or the scripture?

    John 8:58
    “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!“

    Jude 1:25
    to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

    Colossians 1:17
    He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    John 1:3
    Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    Colossians 1:15-18
    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Hear The Father speaking through His Chosen Vessel.

    “Before Abraham was I am”

    #820044
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Heb 1-1

    God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days

    HAS SPOKEN TO US IN HIS SON,

    whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

     

    Do you yet hear God speaking in the Son?

    #820116
     t8 
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    Yes, God sent the prophets and they were ignored and abused. Finally, God sent his son into the world. He is the ultimate judgement because how men treat the son is the level of respect they have for God. He sent his son into the world that the world might be saved through him.

    #820117
     t8 
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    Hi,

    Hear The Father speaking through His Chosen Vessel.

    “Before Abraham was I am”

    So God wanted people to know that he existed before Abraham? lol.

    You believe that?

    #820118
     t8 
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    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

    Amen and amen.

    #820122
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Yes the Word was made flesh

    The Word was with God and was God.

     

    The Word became Jesus Christ.

    But flesh contributes nothing it is all about the Spirit.

     

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     t8 
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    And the Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things…

    #820153
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    And you too can know the Spirit of the Son.

    Gal 4.6

    #820528
     t8 
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    Yes, we can all be one by spirit in God. With each other and primarily with Christ we can all be one with God. This unity will result in love for each other and love for God. Not lip service, but true love. Jesus said that many would come saying: “I am the Christ” and would deceive many. And not all who say lord lord shall enter the kingdom. But those who do the will of the Father which is to love God and our fellow man. For the forner we will be obedient, and for the latter we will treat with respect as to the respect we give ourself. Our lives are short, too short to let pride eat the years away.

    #820532
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    indeed for your sake and others it would be good if you started to hear the voice of the Spirit in the mouths of God’s servants.

    Out of the mouth comes what the heart is full of and we only hear tradition.

    Humble yourself and submit your mind to the Word.

    #820535
     t8 
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    You judge another man’s servant? I belong to the one who was born the Christ and the Lord. You can judge all you like, but you will have to stand before the real judge. My advice is to make that day as good as possible. The bar you set in your judgement of me will be applied to you and I am concerned for you in that respect.

    #820536
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    It is no judgement against you though your service seems to be towards tradition

    But an observation that when you  hear the voice of the Spirit in scripture you will be really useful to God..

    #820537
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    You certainly are not alone in denying that the Spirit spoke through Jesus Christ.

    It s the mst popular error in the past 2000 years and explains the diversity of false dogmas that arise from it, trinity, preexistence etc.

    Do you deny the work of the Spirit through the apostles and prophets too?

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