The False “Church System” (Page 9)

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    Profile photo of Jael Jael 
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    Hey, Ya’ll, I’m just joining the discussion so bear with me.

    What is: ‘The False Church’ in your opinions

    My take is that it is ‘Christendom’: the false teaching about Christ Jesus…aka, ‘Catholocism: the ‘Holy?’ Roman Catholic Church full of falsehood from which all trinitarian churches feed.

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    Profile photo of t8 t8 
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    So he taught the people but not with the purpose of them really learning,understanding or being converted.

    But the scripture itself used the word ‘taught’ so if it is good enough for scripture, then it should be good enough for Believers.

    Further, it is a nobrainer that there are different levels of education or being taught. We teach kids this way and adults that way. We teach experts with greater depth and newbies with abstract ideas and parables.

    The thing with Terr, is that he will continue to argue even after this has been discussed instead of realizing that there is much common ground and seeking peace and unity. He seems to have it in his heart to rebel all the time. He ends up wasting people’s time. And it is not a good look for outsiders who end up reading here. I just don’t see the point of his arguments most of the time.

    Ultimately, he still argues against Jesus teaching the crowd when we are told that Jesus taught the crowd. It is that silly.

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    Profile photo of AndrewAD AndrewAD 
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    T8,

    I understand what you were saying and the point I felt he was trying to make. Also I realize how it is to get bullheaded in our ideas or thinking patterns,so that sometimes we just can’t see the forest for the trees.

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    Yes. Obviously if scripture is translated correctly and we believe that scripture is inspired, then we accept it. The question is then not one of doubt, but one of what kind of teaching was he giving. Further, parables are a form of teaching. How could they not be. In fact I think parables are great. They may not be direct, but people find stories easy to remember. Take the Parable of the Prodigal Son. The story is so easy to remember that it’s hard to forget that God even loves those who go astray and celebrates like no other when they return to him. It brings this point out so clearly that it is even easier to remember this fact than had Jesus given this teaching in a direct manner.

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    Yes parables are a form of teaching and it’s also taught why Jesus gave the parables in Mk4,Mtt 13,Lk 8. They were for the disciples to understand and the outsiders to not understand to fulfill prophecy. Do you believe and accept this as inspired?

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    Yes, I think parables are used in this manner. So that a man with the right spirit can hear it, but a natural man cannot. Remember that members of the crowd could become his disciples if they were not already and parables were not meant to be understood by only 12 men. Also, a natural man can remember a parable. It is hoped one day that he would understand the parable because that would show that God has revealed it.

    I remember a time in my life where the Bible seemed so difficult to understand for me. But in time as I gave myself over to God, it became not only clear, but obvious. However, that is not true for everything in scripture. I still like anyone else struggle to understand some prophecies etc. But there is a time of revealing their meaning too. They are like parables that are even hid from God’s own people till the right season.

    Remember after the resurrection many things became clear to the disciples because it was the right season.

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    It also helps that we get the inside scoop from the gospels on Jesus secret teaching that the unfortunate reprobate Jews of Christ’s time didn’t get.

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    Yes true. We do get that info. In our season it is available.

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