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wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick, Gene, Kerwin,
Sorry I couldn’t reply earlier. When there are verses that seems to contradict we should try an interpretation that reconciles them. I am surprised how you can disagree, but as far as i recall there are many verses that show children inheriting their fathers’ sins. The only exception that i recall seem to be Ezekiel chapter…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick, Gene, Kerwin,
Sorry I couldn’t reply earlier. When there are verses that seems to contradict we should try an interpretation that reconciles them. I am surprised how you can disagree, but as far as i recall there are many verses that show children inheriting their fathers’ sins. The only exception that i recall seem to be Ezekiel chapter…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Hi EdJ,
1) I will try to see this over the weekend. I recall hearing about this long back.
2) I was speaking in the context of Matthew 22.
<span id=”en-NASB-23902″ class=”text Matt-22-29″><sup class=”versenum”>29 </sup>But Jesus answered and said to them, <span class=”woj”>“You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of Go…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
If God had wished he could have made Jesus’ body with just 23 chromosomes (just from Mary). We don’t know how Jesus’ body was made. That is why i advice to stick to the text without making assumptions (like using words like ‘fathered’) by extrapolating using our knowledge about the physical world when it comes to the power of God. It was a…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
The word fathered usually means that one person can be called the father of another. I felt i should point out that statement since only God the Father is called the father of Jesus in the Bible. We see in the Bible that in many places the Holy Spirit comes with the power of God. I haven’t arrived at a conclusion about the separate…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 8 months ago
“If the Holy Spirit fathered Jesus”
Hi t8,
It has been a while. How have you been? (Congrats on the upgraded site btw.)
I was just skimming through the pages when i noticed the above quote. I feel using the word ‘fathered’ here is unbiblical because even though Mary became pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit, the Father is the one who…[Read more]
wilsunphi posted a new activity comment 10 years, 1 month ago
Hi t8,
Thanks for the group invitation. I have already joined as you may have noticed.I recall you once telling that the group is in the forum. I see that I can now log in to the forum using this account.(Btw, thanks for the hard work merging the site and the forum.) But I am not able to find the discussion thread. Where do I check? I am saying…[Read more]
wilsunphi posted a new activity comment 10 years, 2 months ago
Just wanted to remind you about making the group. Truth be told I don’t know if I will be able to spend much time on the group. On top of it I am more of a lurker than a poster. But atleast it may be helpful to identify those with similar belief and include them in my prayers.
wilsunphi posted a new activity comment 10 years, 2 months ago
Sounds good to me.
I pray to God that this will be a useful thing and will bring all the brothers closer.On a side note I have thought of asking this several times, but keeps forgetting. I don’t see the word ‘nontrinitarian’ anywhere in the site. Just curious because, as you probably know, when google searching for nontrinitarian this will…[Read more]
I don’t think it was intentional. Perhaps subconsciously, I do not use that word because to me the faith is not non-trinitarian just as it is not non-mormon. I mean, yes they are non those things, but that is not what defines the faith. However, I do agree that this is a useful keyword and will bear this in mind when I next do a post on the…[Read more]
But yes, I will use that word in future, after all, I have written pages that refute the doctrine, so for those pages, ‘non-trinitarian is a natural keyword.
Just wanted to remind you about making the group. Truth be told I don’t know if I will be able to spend much time on the group. On top of it I am more of a lurker than a poster. But atleast it may be helpful to identify those with similar belief and include them in my prayers.
No problem. I have set up the group. My next mission is to merge the forum into the same platform as the site. This will difficult to do, but I think it is important as there is already an avid community in the forum.
wilsunphi posted an update 10 years, 2 months ago
@t8
Hi t8,It has been sometime brother. I hope you are fine. I have you in my prayers. Please continue to pray for me and my family.
Glad to see more people coming to the truth. I have been thinking that I should connect more with the believers and not I alone but that the believers should connect more with each other. After all God’s command…[Read more]
@wilsunphi
Sounds like a great idea. Perhaps it should be called Bereans because Paul commended them for checking out all that he said with scripture. How does that name sound, or do you have another suggestion?BTW, thanks for the support and you are in my prayers.
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Sounds good to me.
I pray to God that this will be a useful thing and will bring all the brothers closer.On a side note I have thought of asking this several times, but keeps forgetting. I don’t see the word ‘nontrinitarian’ anywhere in the site. Just curious because, as you probably know, when google searching for nontrinitarian this will…[Read more]
I don’t think it was intentional. Perhaps subconsciously, I do not use that word because to me the faith is not non-trinitarian just as it is not non-mormon. I mean, yes they are non those things, but that is not what defines the faith. However, I do agree that this is a useful keyword and will bear this in mind when I next do a post on the…[Read more]
But yes, I will use that word in future, after all, I have written pages that refute the doctrine, so for those pages, ‘non-trinitarian is a natural keyword.
Just wanted to remind you about making the group. Truth be told I don’t know if I will be able to spend much time on the group. On top of it I am more of a lurker than a poster. But atleast it may be helpful to identify those with similar belief and include them in my prayers.
No problem. I have set up the group. My next mission is to merge the forum into the same platform as the site. This will difficult to do, but I think it is important as there is already an avid community in the forum.
wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
I too don’t believe in the trinity, but still believe that Jesus is God’s only begotten son. I recall reading t8’s belief that Jesus is begotton and not created. I think this belief is necessary for salvation. I thought you too were the same.
I have a feeling (though not explicitly supported by scripture – but not opposed by it either) that God…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Hi t8,
I too have no training in Physics beyond high school.I saw the video partially. Will try to see it later when I get the time. But from what I saw I think he was trying to put Joshua’s conquest at around 700BC. Or did I get it wrong. But Joshua lived before 1000BC. I had heard about the 360 day calender. I always thought a better…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Sorry for the repeat post but just to put a more complete and consice set of arguments.
1) Laws of physics behave to give limited no of possibilities.
2) We are able to imagine much much more no of possibilities.
3) From 1) and 2) we can say that laws of physics and hence the root cause of the laws of physics behave in a non random…[Read more]
wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Hi Pierre,
I got back my old dormant account by resetting the password.‘many people do not take the time to see,and hear and feel live around them ,because of their priorities they have set up in their own mind’
That is the big tragedy- what is in a person’s apparent immediate interest is not in line with what is in his true immediate and…[Read more]wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Basically whenever a scientist makes a claim that
Some laws were followed in an experimental setup => the laws will be followed at all places and at all times.
There is a huge logical jump here. The correct logic would be
Some laws were followed in a experimental setup AND God makes the same laws apply in all places at all ti…[Read more]wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Hi terrarica,
Sorry that my post confused you. My communication skills were never top notch. The ‘if’s were just to explain concepts. Even without that I think it is a strong logical proof. Please allow me to try again without the ‘if’s this time.
1) There is order around us and we are able to manipulate our environment around us. This is…[Read more]wilsunphi replied to the topic Faitheism in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 5 months ago
Hi,
I think there is also an alternate proof based on the existence of causal relationships in the universe and our brain’s ability to exploit them using deductive reasoning. I think this may be related to the concept of Logos(Johns)/Wisdom(Proverbs) in the bible.
In this universe we see a lot of consistency/order – much more than we realize.…[Read more]
No problem. I have set up the group. My next mission is to merge the forum into the same platform as the site. This will difficult to do, but I think it is important as there is already an avid community in the forum.