• To add to Jesus receiving holy spirit at Jordan.

    Act 10:37  That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 
    Act 10:38  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the de…[Read more]

  • Gene,

    I like Micah 5:2. Haven’t picked up on that one before. However, it says “his going forths” are from old. Concordances’ suggest that means his descent, or origins, are from old/everlasting. This fits with the whole of scripture as God is His father from whom he descended from. Doesn’t necessarily suggest he has existed forever. Do you have…[Read more]

  • Nick, Yep.


    You referenced your own argument as mine (#833878 <span class=”bbp-admin-links”>REP)</span>, but that is what you said, then you argued against your own statement. Then you started calling me names – how Christian of you, thanks. Let’s not get offensive or offended, we’re just sharpening each other.

    Please provide verses of H…[Read more]

  • Hi TC,

    Yes that was a typo. Luke 2:40 does not contain “in the spirit”, neither do your other references, so cannot be used to argue that Jesus grew in the spirit.

    Luke 1:80 is talking about John not Jesus. John was in the desert until his showing.

    You said Jesus received anointing power at Jordan. Isn’t this the spirit? If it’s not, then your…[Read more]

  • TC,

    Luke 1:52, most texts don’t have “in the spirit”.

    Col 1:18. Jesus is the first from the dead to die no more. Several people have been raised from the dead, even before Jesus Christ, he also raised people from the dead, he wasn’t the first, just the first to die know more.

    As well, people had holy spirit before Jesus, It wasn’t a new thing.…[Read more]

  • Hi TC God bless,

    Whether JB had holy spirit before being born, during gestation, or from (ek – out from) actual birth, probably not too critical in the whole scheme of things. Point is he had holy spirit before/at birth. Jesus however, received holy spirit upon being baptized by John.

    ED J, Bless you sir.

    Jesus, received holy spirit, at the…[Read more]

  • Hi Ed J,

    1 Peter 1:11 needs to be understood in the whole of scripture. The “Spirit of Christ” is not the Spirit Jesus Christ, but rather the Spirit of God.

    Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 

    Rom 8:11  But if th…[Read more]

  • Hi t8,


    Concerning; John 8:58…before Abraham was I am. Scripture needs to be interpreted with scripture, and in context. The context is Jesus being challenged whether he was the messiah. This was/is on the mind of every Jew since it was promised in Gen 3:15, Gal 3:16. Jesus is simply saying I am he that had been prophesied and written…[Read more]

  • Hey thanks Anthony! God Bless. The Word of God fits together wonderfully once some of the preconceived mysticism is removed from it (guilty here).

    To you and Gene, might I recommend a book, if you haven’t already read it, by Robert Rubenstein called “When Jesus Became God”. It’s an excellent page turner. I have not fact checked, but a good read…[Read more]

  • Hi Nick,

    You’ve apparently established nothing about my beliefs, not sure how you deduced 1-4 at all. Jesus is a man just like us, our brother, but not born in the same way from the human male sperm. Mary a female woman gave birth to a male Jesus just as the scripture states. We can and do follow him and can do the works that he does (John…[Read more]

  • Hi Nick

    RE: Vine and Branches. We are more like Jesus as he’s our brother (Heb 2:11). Jesus is the first fruits to die no more (Rom 8:29-30). We will be “cultivated” when he returns. (1 Corn 15:23-24). God is the husbandman. Though, we are all united as one with God and with His Son Jesus Christ (John 17:11&21)

    John 15:1  I am the true vine,…[Read more]

  • Hi Anthony,

    Regarding. Before Abraham was, I am. Would be best translated I am he. Refers to whom God had promised, the Messiah, the Son of Man. The expression is said several times in John 8 and throughout John. Sometimes translators add “he” sometimes not. Have to read in the context, and scope of Word. see (John 8:28, 13:19)

    Plus. The I AM,…[Read more]

  • I can make this easy for anyone who can read. If one finds themselves having to be creative in explaining a supposed foundational truth while sacrificing the integrity of the scope of the Word, then one should definitely check their doctrine.

    It’s this simple. Jesus has a God! He is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14, 1 John 1:2). God’s Word…[Read more]

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