• Nick,

    Is the one called “the Spirit of God” the same as the “Spirit of Christ” in your view?

  • Jodi,

    I said:

    “Jodi, spiritually speaking, if Jesus wasn’t always God’s son, who’s son was Jesus before he became God’s son? Please answer this before we move on.”

    you said “I do not understand your question, maybe you can rephrase it?”

    Ok, in other words…if there was a time when Jesus was not God’s son, which you say didn’t happen until the…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 3 hours, 25 minutes ago

    Spoiler alert…the so-called “solid firmament” is not solid. Read on:

    Mike said

    Anthony said: Depending on the context, the word can refer to that which is immediately above us, where flying birds, clouds, and rain are.
    Mike responded: Yes, that is the first heaven – which is never referred to by raqia, since it is not solid.

     

    Genesis 1…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 3 hours, 57 minutes ago

    Hi Dig4truth,

    you asked:

    Lightenup, what was the earth orbiting before the sun was made?

    Seems to me that the orbit was set into motion on day 4. It is the orbit of the earth around the sun that gives us seasons. There was no orbit before day 4, imho.

    Did you watch the video of Charlie Duke’s testimony? I really want to know what you think of it.

    LU

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 5 hours, 15 minutes ago

    Mike,

    Perhaps all their answers are right in their own context from their unique perspectives. The video takes short comments out of their full context. Why aren’t you critical of that?

    From the overwhelming evidence of a globe earth in Charlie Duke’s testimony, you still want to keep this up? Watch that video over and over (as many times as you…[Read more]

  • Nick,

    How do you think his human spirit was different than the spirit of Christ? Do you believe that the pre-Jordan Jesus didn’t know that God was his father?

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 11 hours, 36 minutes ago

    Mike,

    Regarding your wet flag theory, the flag does not have a normal drying pattern if it were wet. The seams would be darker because they would be thicker and stay wetter than the thin area between the seams but that is not what the picture is showing. I suspect that the photo shopping done on pictures are likely done by flat earthers including…[Read more]

  • Nick,

    If you think the Spirit of Christ was manifested in Jesus at the Jordan. What do you call the spirit of Jesus that Jesus had before that?

  • Jodi,

    You may have missed this question that I asked you recently:

    Jodi, spiritually speaking, if Jesus wasn’t always God’s son, who’s son was Jesus before he became God’s son? Please answer this before we move on.

    Also, please tell me if you understand that the term “firstborn” can apply to the only child in a family and it is not necessa…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 12 hours, 47 minutes ago

    Hi Dig4truth,

    Would you mind giving me your response to the Charlie Duke testimony video that I just posted after you have watched it? It is less than 3 minutes. I’m trying to find the shorter ones since the 4 hour video of scientific information with three astronomers and a lunar eclipse seems to be not worth your time. May I mention that it is…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 13 hours, 13 minutes ago

    I believe that American Astronauts have indeed landed on the moon…and I honor their courage.

    Here is a testimony from Charlie Duke about his faith. He is one of the astronauts that has walked on the moon.

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 1 day, 6 hours ago

    Has anyone watched this documentary called “In the Shadow of the Moon?” I thought it was fantastic.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M9JJ1KU

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 1 day, 10 hours ago

    Good work @Anthony !

    Did you write all of your post or copy some of it off a website? If you got it off a website, can I have the link?

    Thinking through all that, there is some type of water above the heavens. I wonder if “living water” has something to do with that water. God is the fountain of living water. The Spirit is referred to as living…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 2 days, 1 hour ago

    For all, especially our doubters Mike and Dig4truth,

    Here is a four hour video of a lunar eclipse on June 15, 2011, hosted by the Astronomer Bob Burnam, Astronomy Editor of “The Old Farmer’s Almanac.” Near midway Dr. Duncan Copp was a guest to discuss his various documentaries including “In the Shadow of the Moon” where the astronauts talk about…[Read more]

  • Nick,

    you said:

    But the Spirit abided and raised him from the grave into his battered body then later took him to heaven.

    Now the Lord is the Spirit, and he too is fellowshiping with His Father and we too are invited to join this spiritual fellowship.

    Who was the Spirit before Jesus became the Spirit, Nick?

  • Gene,

    you said:

    LU….whose son was Adam after he was created, scripture says he was the son of GOD, NOW DO YOU WORSHIP HIM AS THE SON OF GOD, If not why not?, following your logic you should, right?

    Wrong Gene, I worship the only begotten Son of God who always existed and is Jehovah our Righteousness. Adam was not the only begotten, he was the f…[Read more]

  • Lightenup replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 3 days, 3 hours ago

    Admin,

    Not sure why it is doing that. I will look into it.

    It is doing that in the Firstborn of all creation thread also.

  • Jodi,

    Your theology says that there was a time when Jesus was not yet the Son of God. Your theology says that there was a time when Jesus was not yet the Messiah.

    I believe that there never was a time when Jesus was not the Son of God. I believe Jesus has been the Messiah since before the foundation of the world.

    We see through different…[Read more]

  • Nick,

    you said:

    Jesus Christ is the HEAD of his body, the church.

    In submitting to his headship we give up our own selfishness and independence.

    Only the work he does through us has any relevance.

    To you Jesus is just a man, now a saint in heaven. If he is just a man, he cannot be more than one place at a time. Why doesn’t the Father work…[Read more]

  • Jodi,

    I’m not depending on the writings of the early Greek church fathers for my understanding. I found my understanding in scripture.

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