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    Hey there DesireTruth,

    YOU: Time to move on; speak on Gal 5:1-12 and how the Jewish male is suppose to accept the Jesus as Paul teaches circumcision doesn’t matter; and relate that to Gen 17:1-14. My assessment of Paul stands; he’s a liar, manipulator, and deceiver; and he’s real good!

    ME: How about we relate it to not only Genesis 17 but addit…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU: I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Paul’s wording; his choice of wording for being paid is beyond poor; it’s insulting, to say you “robbed” those who paid you for your teachings!

    ME: You say you could care less about everything else, but you yourself said, “the question is why would he refu…[Read more]

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    Hey there DT.

    YOU: I Cor 15:9 “For I am the least of the apostles, who is not worthy to be called an apostle,” and then look at II Cor 11:5 “For I consider myself not at all inferior to those “super-apostles.” You don’t consider this egotistical?

    ME: The “super apostles” Paul speaks to in chapter 11 he clearly identifies as FALSE apostles[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU: What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would you call the term positive or negative?

    ME: Your questioning of “what emotions” conjure in me when I hear the term “robbing”, all the more tells me you aren’t at all invested in sound reasoning and the context of the situation. We are to find tru…[Read more]

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    Hey there DT,

    This is a sticking point to me because you assert your position completely ignoring the surrounding text and the circumstances therein.

    As you yourself have said, churches paid for Paul to travel to serve other churches giving the gospel. Churches also gave charity to support the needs of other churches and for Paul to also give…[Read more]

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    DT,

    Let each accusation you have against Paul have sound scriptural proof.

    YOU: Who are we to love first? This statement is a false teaching, you can’t possibly know how to love your neighbor without loving God first. So it’s not one command as Paul says; there are two and there’s a reason why the first command of loving God is first. How are w…[Read more]

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    Hey there DT!

    You believe Paul is a liar a deceiver and that he even boldly states that he is a thief…, whatever else you want to accuse him of, let each accusation have sound scriptural proof. 

    YOU:

    I don’t recall ever reading such statements to other churches. The point was why did Paul unashamedly use the term “robbing” other church…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    I couldn’t help but notice the conversation going on between you and Carmel involving the curse given to Jeconiah. I am going to post on the “Conception” thread to speak about this and hope that you will reply there.

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    Hey there DT!

    YOU: You then site I John as proof to Paul’s understanding, except Paul was gallivanting all over eastern Rome would he have received this letter John wrote? Upon further investigation we find the letter to Galatians was written around AD 48 and it’s believed John wrote his letter around AD 95 -110. Unless we have another time tra…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU: Are you claiming Paul wasn’t being paid? How was Paul able to travel all over the eastern Roman Empire, unless he received financial support.

    ME: Uh NO,  I have absolutely no clue how in me saying false apostles are getting paid somehow equates to me declaring that Paul wasn’t receiving donations so that he could travel around to sp…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU:

    Read Acts 15:1-32 and Gal 2:1-10:

    Paul goes to Jerusalem over a discussion concerning what the gentiles were suppose to do and the general consensus is the gentiles where “to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.” This was written in a letter to the churc…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    I think you missed part of what I said because if you did I think your response might have been different, but I will get to that in a moment.

    First let me say I am very familiar with Deuteronomy 30 and I would like to connect it directly to Ezekiel 36.

    Notice the prophecy, God knows they will be given blessing and cursing, but what…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU:

    Gal 5:14 Paul says the “whole law” was fulfilled in one word, meaning the entire law, For the whole law can be summed up in a single commandment, namely, “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” I think he missed the other part of the “law” “love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Thi…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU:

    I Cor 9:20-23 I have become like a Jew to the Jews, in order that I may gain the Jews. To those under the law I became as under the law (although I myself am not under the law) in order that I may gain those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I became as outside the law (although I am not outside the law of God, but subject…[Read more]

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    DT

    YOU: II Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them that I might minister unto you; Paul tells the Corinthians he isn’t charging them for his “ministry” to them; he is being so gracious to the wealthier church in Corinth, but took payment from less wealthy churches so he wouldn’t have to “charge” them even though it was his “ri…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU: God didn’t create laws that man wasn’t able to do, man chose not to do them and has paid the consequence for that disobedience. Read Deuteronomy Chapter 30.

    ME:  Your above statement contradicts scripture of the OT and it preaches self-righteousness which then you make us into our own gods.

    Ezekiel 36: 24 For I will take you from…[Read more]

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    Yes, I will second what Danny said, amen to your last post Gene!

    DT, what is so awful about what Paul teaches? Certainly it seems what you think is awful is because you have him all wrong as you don’t apply his words with his own words as well as apply them to the words of others in scripture OT and NT. 

    Why DT did God say in Ezekiel 36 that He…[Read more]

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    Yes, I will second what Danny said, amen to your last post Gene!

    DT, what is so awful about what Paul teaches? Certainly it seems what you think is awful is because you have him all wrong as you don’t apply his words with his own words as well as apply them to the words of others in scripture OT and NT. 

    Why DT did God say in Ezekiel 36 that He…[Read more]

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    Yes, I will second what Danny said, amen to your last post Gene!

    DT, what is so awful about what Paul teaches? Certainly it seems what you think is awful is because you have him all wrong as you don’t apply his words with his own words as well as apply them to the words of others in scripture OT and NT. 

    Why DT did God say in Ezekiel 36 that He…[Read more]

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    Good Morning Berean,

    I guess it’s been 19 days since I last posted. Things have been crazy busy for me the last few weeks.

    Anyway, I saw you response to my last post.

    YOU:

    The WORD was not 👉 the GOD(THE FATHER)

    THE Word was WITH THE GOD

    AND THE WORD WAS 👉GOD

    ME:

    The WORD is God the Father’s Spirit in Jesus, which Jesus preached that it…[Read more]

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