• Gene,

    “AndrewAD. …So to you truth dosen’t have to make any sense?”  And just where did I say or insinuate that? I think it was Nick who said logic is uselessness not I.

    So Satan,virgin birth and preexisting sons of God are all illogical to you so you just dismiss them from your theology and then say those who believe these things from the bibl…[Read more]

  • So according to you being spiritual is not logical?

    or the bible is only logical when it makes sense to you?


  • Hi Nick,

    “God is the Father of Adam.
    Jesus is a son of Adam.”

    So all people are by creation sons of God even as Paul said in quoting a Greek poet ” For we are also his offspring” Acts17:28

  • Should Scripture always be according to logic?

    Is Scripture logical?

  • What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    Good point Ed, Jesus must have been a little presumptuous when he said ” I must be about my Father’s business” since he hadn’t been baptized yet.

  • ” How is it that a human in the FLESH can be a Son of God? ”

    How is it that preexisting Sons of God can copulate with mortal women and produce giants? Does anyone think they’ve figured that out? this sounds rather “Greek and pagan” too.

  • Gene,

    You’ve drawn a line in the sand so to speak declaring all who disagree with your interpretations as fallen huh? Are you the second or third coming of Elijah maybe? or Muhammed declaring “say not trinity”!?  Will Babylon fall today and Armageddon begin here on this internet site?

    Perhaps just you and Jodi and maybe Nick can enjoy a…[Read more]

  • Jodi,

    You ask ” How is it that a human in the FLESH can be a Son of God? ” The verses in Lk 1:34,35 that we were discussing answer this plainly as I pointed out to you.  35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall…[Read more]

  • Edj,

    “Are you claiming the bible is in error since the lineages are different?” it’s quite clear from what is written that both lineages claim to be of Joseph and yes as LU pointed out Luke’s version is supposedly of David’s son Nathan,but the promise of the throne was specifically through Soloman- 2 Sam7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and…[Read more]

  • Jodi,

    You quote Lk1:27-33 and you say” He SHALL BE called the Son of the Highest because he will on a certain DAY be BORN of God,” But why don’t you go on to vs 34,35 to see what your bible says?  “Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come…[Read more]

  • Hello Ed,

    Lk 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli

    The term (as was supposed),the son of Joseph makes clear that Luke’s lineage of Jesus is also through Joseph just as Matthew’s version. There’s nothing there to suggest that Joseph is the father of Mary…[Read more]

  • Hi Jodi,

    “Jesus had the DNA of Joseph that is precisely what Matthew tells us.”

    That is precisely not what the author of Matthew tells us for if Jesus were Josephs biological child-from his own loins so to speak,then why did he contemplate “putting her away privately”? An angel had to come to him in a dream and tell him that the child conceived…[Read more]

  • AndrewAD replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 1 month, 1 week ago


    What would you think is the reason, for this waste of time?

    Because it’s interesting, it’s something to think and talk about if one so desires. It shows that there are a lot of unanswered questions about our universe and planet. And we shouldn’t always just assume we know things that we may not. Even if the world is round/ a globe there…[Read more]

  • Jodi,

    “He does NOT acknowledge that he has a kingdom,”

    “Jesus uses the word IF, this is NOT showing that he acknowledges that Beezlebub is real”

    When Jesus asks Matt 12 “26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
    27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them…[Read more]

  • Oh I just saw the next page. So you think I am in support of the money grubbers huh? Did I ever say I was? I asked you pertinent questions on faith and you give the exact same speil as they do which is why I brought it up.

  • Gene,

    Had you sent your money to one of the televangelists and then sent them your testimony they may have used it to boost their ministry and then you’d really be convinced they were of God. That’s how the propaganda works but the majority of people who send their money can’t even afford to pay their bills. They know this and prey upon them with…[Read more]

  • Beelzebub as used in the gospels is just another name for Satan or the devil, and Jesus certainly acknowledges him by saying he has a kingdom. Why was Jesus anointed by God to heal those oppressed of the devil if the devil is only doing God’s will? Jesus makes it plain that the devil has a kingdom that is in opposition to God’s by saying if Satan…[Read more]

  • AndrewAD replied to the topic Flat Earth? in the forum View Points 1 month, 1 week ago

    “Satan is trying to get us to focus endless hours of our time on this smoke and mirrors, garbage, we have undeniable proof, ton of proof, that proves the earth is indeed round.

    But Gene according to your theology Satan is only doing God’s will  to show forth his righteousness correct? Don’t blame the devil! 🙂

  • Jodi,

    Mark 1: 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.  In Mark’s account of the Baptism the voice declares Thou art my son, and in the other synoptics it’s similar…[Read more]

  • Hi Jodi,

    That’s a good point about Mark 1- it being after the forty days where Jesus was in the wilderness being tempted by Satan,and John’s preaching about a greater one coming-although Jesus isn’t specified. So it makes sense if the demons met him in the wilderness. And I was thinking “right after” in terms of in Mark chapter 1. I freely admit…[Read more]

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