What is Man?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Do you still not hear the words of God spoken through the anointed man?

    Not a hard thing.

     

    Heb 1

    In these last days God has spoken to us through His Son

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….Not a single scripture say Jesus was alive before his berth on this earth, the glory he had with God , was his prophesied glory that he was to inherit, and after his resurection he did inherit it. Why can’t you see it was planned glory for Jesus that God the Father purposed for him, the same glory is also purpose for us also, we have it waiting for us, but we have not yet recieved it, no did we ever have it in the past, same with our lord And brother Jesus. I do not seperate him from my likeness, nor should you. IMO

    peace and quietlove to you and yours. ………gene

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     t8 
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    Gene, that is like saying that nowhere does it say in the American Constitution anything about a Second Amendment. lol.

    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities.
    All things were created through Him and for Him.
    He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…

    One clear scripture of many. The Jesus I believe in is the son of God. He was born into this world in the flesh as the Messiah and the King of the Jews. This Jesus you and Nick speak of who was not born the messiah and was a man like you, does he have a second name? What is it?

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….It takes more than one misunderstood scripture to make a true point, espically when some of the words used there have many, many different meanings in the Greek language, you must put all scriptures together to find truth. Many scriptures show Jesus never created anything, Jesus never said once he created anything or anything about his life before his berth on this earth, “God gives his glory to no man”,but you do, the “man” Jesus who you preach as a joint creator like other tritarians do.

    Try to consider and compare “all” scriptures to come to a ferm conclusion about the truth, because when God the Father said he “alone” and by “himself” created the heavens and earth and “all” thing in it, why don’t you believe him? And if you do, then why believe Jesus was there and did it with him?

    T8, we have but ONE GOD AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN that “one” GOD AND MAN THE “MAN” JESUS who is the “CHRIST”. JESUS SAID he was a “man” calling himself the “SON OF MAN” over and over, but you make him something else other then a son of man, but Jesus identified himself as one of us. But God said this, ” God is ‘not a man’ that he should lie, nor a ‘Son of Man, that he should repent”. So your conclusion is that Jesus existed as some other creature, is founded on what?, because Jesus never said he existed as anything else now did he, where is that said in any scripture?

    Forcing text to say what it does not “specifically ” say is bad form T8. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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     t8 
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    Gene, it is not one isolated scripture but many. When lots of signs point in the same direction, it is not wise to ignore them. But who can force another man to read the warning sign?

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     t8 
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    Gene,

    Explain why this scripture is not saying what it says.

    Explain why and how all things were not created through him because surely, this and other verses say it is true.

    …he Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities.
    All things were created through Him and for Him.
    He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Why do not believe?

    The Spirit of God creates.

    And the Spirit is in the Son.

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     t8 
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    I believe this scripture which is what the Spirit would have me do. It is you who does not believe. What Spirit are you offering that disputes this scripture?

    the Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities.
    All things were created through Him and for Him.
    He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…

    You are free to not believe this. But your idea that the Spirit would make a person not believe this as it is written is a joke. I feel secure believing this and would have grave concerns if I could not accept it because of my theological understanding. I think you are projecting your own fears on to me. Look in the mirror and see what manner of man stands before you. Focus on letting God fix that person.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….Does the word “FRISTBORN” mean the same as “FIRST CREATED” TO YOU? You as well as most have changed the meaning of the word.
    I thought the word “Born” Is talking about a (BIRTH) process.

    Explain that and we can go on T8. And don’t forget there are others scriptures that say God created everything “ALONE” AND BY “HIS SELF” , SO how could that be true and what you say be true also. Seems you have presented a counterdiction to scriptures. How do you ecplain it T8?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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     t8 
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    Gene, by default it is the first. But the first does not always receive the blessing of the first born. Sometimes it goes to another more worthy.

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     t8 
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    Gene, you go on as if I do not believe Jesus is a man. Silly when I have never taught against this. The Word became flesh and the antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh. He emptied himself and came in the flesh. Now he is in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos. His body is radiant. We will have a body like his if we belong to him. He took on a body like ours, now it is our turn to have a body like his. We need to belong to God.

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