Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    step by step

    Rev 1.4

    John to the seven churches that are in asia;  Grace to you and peace from Him Who is and Who was and Who is to come; and from the seven spirits who are before His throne: and from Jesus Christ…

     

    God is eternal.

    The verse separates Him from Jesus Christ but also from the seven spirits.

     

     

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Rev 1.20 explains the vision of Jesus Christ with the the stars and the lampstands .

    The stars are the angels of the churches.

    So everything is not as first seen.

    There is much symbolism.

    #814486
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Note that scripture says several times

    He who has an ear let him hear what THE SPIRIT says to the churches

    ONE SPIRIT

    Rev 3.2

    He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars….

    This separates the seven angels of the churches from the seven other spirits

    #814487
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Rev 4.5

    ..and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God;

    Rev 5.6

    …a lamb standing , as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God , sent out into all of the earth.

     

    The Spirit of the living God is never separate from He Who is on the throne

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     Ed J 
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    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

    Hi Nick,

    REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    Hi Nick,

    Not sure if you seen this post or not

    #814489
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Everything good and spiritual happens by the Spirit of God.

    Whether or not the Spirit is embodied in servant angels or men is not that important

     

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi ED,

    You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.

    The Spirit are not a like man needing to be born

     

    Such is the folly of the Trinitarians

     

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    #814493
     Ed J 
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    Hi ED,

    You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.

    Hi Nick,

    “The Spirit of Christ” IS A PERSON – and his name is Jesus (YA-shu-a)!

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    God bless
    Ed J

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     Ed J 
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    Why do you think the Church was built upon this rock! ?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    You go through these mental gymnastics because you cannot grasp the prophetic word.

    #814496
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    The Rock is the Spiritual unity God wants.

    Thus those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are none of his.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    God saves.

    But the Spirit is not a person.

    #814504
     Ed J 
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    Hi Ed,

    But the Spirit is not a person.

    Hi Nick,

    Is your spirit “a person”? y/n

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    God bless
    Ed J

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….YOU have failed to produce a single scripture that says angels “are” spirits, of anykind. you are right about symbolic language used in revelations. but your interpretations do not fit scriptures, for instance the seven lamps of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, are seven destinct spirits of GOD, WHICH HE USES TO “JUDGE” THE WORLD WITH, they go before his throne is symbolic, for producing his SEVEN DESTINCT insites or enlightments, need to rule his throne with, and these spirits are in JESUS which HE WILL USE TO RULE HIS KINGDOM WITH. That is why GOD SAYS TO THE SON, “THY KINGDOM “O” GOD IS AN EVER LASTING KINGDOM.” IT IS GOD “IN” JESUS THE LAMB, RULING THROUGH HIM BY THE “SEVEN SPIRITS” OF GOD, ABIDING “IN” JESUS.

    NICK….TRUE THE SEVEN SPIRITS “OF” GOD, THEY are not seperate from him, they go out from him and are used as his eyes which give him destinct intellects needed to rule and judge all things with. They represent the complete GOD, WHY DO YOU THINK SEVEN REPRESENTS COMPLETION WITH GOD?

    YOU have also failed to produce scriptures that say there is “ONLY” ONE Spirit of GOD, WHILE IT IS TRUE WE ARE GIVEN THE SPIRIT OF “TRUTH” AND ALSO GIVEN DIFFERENT GIFTS BY or through, The SPIRIT GIVEN US, BUT THAT DOES NOT LIMIT GOD TO A SINGLE SPIRIT AS YOU ASSUME. I SEE GOD THE FATHER AS A COMPOSITE of SEVEN SPIRITS, YOU LIMIT HIM TO JUST ONE. Therein lies our difference, you see spirits different then i do, i believe they transmit their own destinct trates to us, and effect our thinking, you seen to view them as persons even though you say they are not persons, then tell us what they are to you NICK, SO WE CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE COMMING FROM.

    We may have to agree to disagree on this one brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814508
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….You said wrether or not the spirit is embodied in servant angels or a person is not important. I DISAGREE, it very important what type or kind of spirits are in a person, because it is by these spirits the thinking of the mind is greatly effected. Aren’t we told to try the spirits to see if they are of God or not. NICK i still do not understand what you believe spirits are, please try to give me a specific answer to this question, what is the general rule you see spirits as, brother?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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