Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….Please present the scriptures that say angels “are” spirits, I have yet to see that written in scriptures brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    And you explain how God could be on His throne but separate from what you say are multiple spirits.

    That is clearly false.

    #814360
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….Consider this, JESUS HAS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, along with the seven horns (powers) that go with them.

    REV 5:6 “and I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and SEVEN EYES, WHICH “ARE” THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, sent forth into all the earth.

    Now consider what eyes do, they supply us with the means to acquire information, the seven spirits of GOD do the same thing for him. they input into his mind, the information needed for him to make his decisions. ALSO the seven spirits are called seven lamps of fire burning before the throne of GOD.

    Rev 4:5 “and out of the throne proceeded lightinings and thundering and voices: and SEVEN LAMPS OF FIRE , burning before the throne which “are” the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.

    Fire in scripture implys intense judgements, THE LORD uses those seven destinct types of judgements to judge all thing with, they act as his eyes of judgement, the are spirits just as it says they are.

    YOU should be able to understand this Nick.

    No scripture call angels spirits NICK.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    NOW CONSIDER that they are the complete God, residing “in” him, that is why the LORD said to the son “THY KINGDOM “O” GOD IS AN EVERLASTING KINGDOM.”

    #814365
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Just align 1 Cor 12 and Eph 4.

    Talk is cheap.

    #814377
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK…..ARE YOU SAYING THE SCRIPTURES I POSTED IS CHEAP TALK? I HAVE READ THOSE SCRIPTURES YOU ASK ME, AND NOT ONE SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS Nick. PLEASE PRESENT SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS “ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS. IF YOU CAN’T, THEN I MUST CONCLUDE YOUR “ASSUMPTIONS” ARE NOT BASED ON SCRIPTRUAL FACTS, BROTHER.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #814388
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Align the verses and rely on what is written, not your opinion of what is written

    #814414
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….ALIGN A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS. NOT A SINGLE SCRIPTURE YOU AS ME TO READ SAYS ANGELS ARE SPIRITS. The ball is in your court. please address the issue, stop skirting it brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814419
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    1cor 12

     

    For there are varieties of gifts but the same Spirit..

    but to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit..

    and to another faith by the same Spirit..

    and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit..

    But one and the same Spirit works all these things..

     

    Eph 4

    Being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace

    There is one body and one Spirit..

     

    1Cor 12

    For by one Spirit we were all baptised into one body..

    and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

     

     

    #814426
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK…..No where does that say that there is “only” one spirit that exists, even though it is by the one and same spirit we are all in christ. AND NON OF THAT SAYS THAT THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD “ARE” ANGELS OF ANYKIND. Again youmust showfroms ripture thatthose sevenspirits of God are a tually angels. You have no scriptural support for saying that angels “are” spirits that ihave seen you produce. reading into scriptures and forcing text tosay what is not specifically said, is not good scholarship NICK.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #814428
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Boast of your scholarship if you must.

    But spirits are intellects?

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     t8 
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    • Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
    • “Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?”
    #814471
     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….FIRST OF ALL, NICK IS SAYING, THERE IS ONLY “ONE” SPIRIT, I AM SAYING THERE ARE MANY SPIRITS, HE IS ALSO SAYING, WHERE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS, IN THEEE PLACES ARE THE SEVEN ANGELS OF GOD.

    ALSO YOU ARE MISQUOTING SCRIPTURE, HEBREWS IS SAYING, GOD MAKES HIS ANGEL’S SPIRITS AND SENDS THEM OUT TO MINISTER, IT IS NOT SAYING HIS ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS, THAT IS A FALSE ASSUMPTION, IT IS SAYING HE MAKES THEIR SPIRITS IN THEM, IF ANGELS WERE SPIRITS THEN WHY WOULD THEY NEED MANNA, FOOD TO EAT.

    GOD MAKES ALL SPIRITS THAT EXIST, WHETHER IN OR OUT OF BODIES, EVERYTHING THAT HAS LIFE HAS SPIRIT IN IT, NO LIFE FORMS CAN EXIST WITHOUT SPIRIT.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #814480
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

     

    #814481
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    If you do not believe what is written who can reach you?

    #814482
     Ed J 
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    Hi T8.

    So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.

    He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written

    Hi Nick,

    REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

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