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  • #799126
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidh,

    We are mostly here to learn, but some for other reasons.

    Thy word is truth so we work towards that understanding.

    The hope is to shine the light into the darkness of the world.

     

    #799127
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidh,

    On earth light is not popular and never was .

    #799194
     carmel 
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    Jesus Christ is not equal to God

    Kerwin,

    When God, the deity, EXTERNALLY was in his own glory he was in continuous from eternity to eternity, always ENRICHING HIMSELF, through all his work!

    He wouldn’t do anything just for fun! No?

    God Establishes a process in order to achieve another higher process through it, and maintains what He had, in ALL what He does, and up to this day!

    So He becomes more powerful every time He accomplishes a process, and also during the process itself He would be always in general progression!

    So there was no time and there won’t be a time that God ever would be a COMPLETE function, operation! But ALWAYS WORKING! Always on the MOVE, in progression,

    Genesis 1:2, John5:17 But Jesus answered them: My Father works until now; and I work.

    This is confirmed in many instances in scripture!

    NOW DO YOU THINK THAT GOD ACHIEVED PERFECTION OF HIS CREATION, AND GLORIFIED, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST PROCESS, SOMETHING THAT GOD THE DEITY COULD IN NO WAY ACHIEVE SINGLE HANDED,

    (a)PASS ALL HIS ATTRIBUTES AND POWER TO CHRIST,

    (b)STILL WORKING TO PUT CHRIST’S ENEMIES AS HIS FOOTSTOOL,

    (c)BY USING WHAT HE ACHIEVED, AND STRENGTHENED HIMSELF  WITH/IN/ AND BY CHRIST, AND IN THE SAME TIME:

    CHRIST IS NOT THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT?????????????????????

    THE FACT THAT ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD, JESUS CHRIST WOULD EVENTUALLY PASS ALL BACK TO HIS FATHER,

    OTHERWISE THE FATHER, WOULD NEVER BE ALL IN ALL, OR MORE ACCURATE

    AS POWERFUL AS CHRIST IS NOW?

    Now read hereunder and reflect:

    Hebrews1 :2

    In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he has

    APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS

    There’s nothing absolutely nothing which God the Father has, and didn’t pass to His Son!

    John17:10 And all MY things are YOURS, and YOURS are MINE; and I am glorified in them.

    In the above only it is evidently clear that Jesus Christ is MORE THEN EQUAL since the Father gave all his attributes to Him, and in the same time

    Jesus Christ possessed HIS OWN ACHIEVMENT THROUGH HIS OWN BLOOD! WHILE THE FATHER WAS SIMPLY WATCHING! in a mode to say!

    THE FACT THAT GOD GAVE ALL TO JESUS CHRIST TO BE

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    THE GENUINE REASON THAT HE WAS SENT !

     

    MORE PROOF AVAILABLE IN THIS REGARD!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #799206
     NickHassan 
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    Hi C,

    No.

    Too much of you and not enough of scripture.

    #799219
     carmel 
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    Unsurprisingly you believe in your own ideas despite what SCRIPTURE SAYS in 2 COR 5 .19

    2 Corinthians 5:19 For God indeed was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing to them their sins; and he hath placed in us the word of reconciliation.

    Nick,

    You have to go back to Sunday school again, I’m afraid!

    PAUL SAID:

    FOR GOD INDEED WAS IN CHRIST! SO HE IS NO LONGER IN CHRIST HE WOULD HAVE SAID: HE IS IN CHRIST!

     

    Jesus was called Christ even before he died, although He was not yet Christ, BUT CHRIST TO BE!

    John 11:27 She saith to him: …………thou art Christ the Son of the living God, who art come into this world.

    John4:25 The woman saith to him: I know that the Messiah cometh, who is called Christ; ……..26Jesus saith to her: I am he, who am speaking with thee.

    SO JESUS THE MAN, who was also called Christ,  DEFINITELY HAD GOD IN HIM!

    BUT GOD THE FATHER LEFT HIM FROM THE CROSS, AND HE IS NOT ANY MORE IN HIM,

    since JESUS CHRIST, GLORIFIED,AND  REPLACED HIM AS

     

    GOD AND FATHER OF ALL   ISAIAH 9:6

    THE SOLE RULER OVER  ALL

    THE SUSTAINER OF ALL

    THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT CALLED IN THE TRUTH

    JESUS CHRIST

    THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES IN HEAVEN, AND ON EARTH!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #799220
     carmel 
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    Too much of you and not enough of scripture.

    Nick,

    A bit of you, but no scripture at all!

    #799222
     kerwin 
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    Charles,

    You wrote a lot of words but the bottom line does not change and that is that Jesus Christ called our Father and his Father God; just as we do. He also prayed to him; just as we do.

    There is one true God and that is the one Jesus and we call Father and God.

    #799225
     NickHassan 
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    Hi C,

    So you also reject Jn 17. 22-23?

    #799271
     carmel 
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    So you also reject Jn 17. 22-23?

    Nick,

    Again, are you ready to produce the above scripture???????
    and

    EXPLAIN IN YOUR INTELLIGENCE WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO!

    SINCE WHEN WE READ SCRIPTURES WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERCEPTION ALTHOUGH WE READ THE SAME WORDS!

    NOW THE TRUTH MUST COME ONLY THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM WITHIN US WITH THE POWER OF CHRIST, HE HAS TO GLORIFY HIM, HE WOULD SPEAK NOT OF HIMSELF, BUT IN/BY WHATEVER HE RECEIVED FROM JESUS!

    BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS IN US!

    SO IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HE IS IN YOU:

    DO NOT BE AFRAID,

    DO NOT HAVE TROUBLE IN YOUR HEART

    JESUS HAS OVERCAME THE WORLD SO

    GO IN THE OPEN

    MANIFEST THE LIGHT SO

    GOD THE FATHER ALWAYS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST

    WOULD BE GLORIFIED!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus

     

    Charles

    #799272
     NickHassan 
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    Hi C,

    You have another light that does not reflect truth.

    Make sure the light in you is not darkness

    for O how deep that darkness can be.

    #799644
     t8 
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    Carmel I have read a few posts of yours in the past. They were fluffy and full of your own ideas that had little to do with the truth in scripture. I have since ignored your posts because they are too long and I don’t have the time to read long fluffy posts.

    I would suggest making shorter posts and sticking to one point at a time. That way people likely will read them and be able to agree or refute them.

    But a long fluffy post, well where does our reply begin? It doesn’t. Too much hassle.

    Also, long-winded posts are often done to make an argument look good. But a truth should be able to stand on its own legs, even if it is one sentence long.

    A lie often must be accompanied by lots of scaffolding to try and hold it in place.

    #800272
     carmel 
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    Carmel I have read a few posts of yours in the past. They were fluffy and full of your own ideas that had little to do with the truth in scripture.

    T8,

    UNLESS YOU PICK ANY VERSE,STATEMENT, AND SO ON, WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU, IS AS YOU SAID:

    your own ideas that had little to do with the truth in scripture,

    AND PROVE OTHERWISE,

    MINE STANDS

    I have since ignored your posts because they are too long and I don’t have the time to read long fluffy posts.

    FAIR ENOUGH, BUT DO NOT TELL ME THAT YOU CANNOT PICK ANY VERSE IN SO MANY, WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU ARE FLUFFY, AND NOT TRUTH,

    BUT MAKE SURE THAT WHAT EVER YOU PICK IS NOT ALREADY CONTRADICTED IN MY POST

    THE FACT THAT I POST SUCH LONG POSTS, SO ONE CAN VERIFY IF HE IS IN THE TRUTH, FROM THAT SAME POST!

    NO HASSLE AT ALL, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO,

    RELAX, READ, REFLECT, VERIFY WITH SCRIPTURE, FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS!

    NOT SIMPLY TOO EAGER TO ANSWER MY POST, WHICH FROM MY PART BEFOREHAND, I DID PATIENTLY, HUMBLY, FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS, NOT TO PLEASE MY CORRUPTED FLESH,

    RELAX, READ, REFLECT, VERIFY WITH SCRIPTURE,WRITE MORE THEN THREE OR FOUR TIMES, BEFORE I POST, WAITED FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GUIDE ME TO THE TRUTH

    I would suggest making shorter posts and sticking to one point at a time. That way people likely will read them and be able to agree or refute them.

    I appreciate your interest, and your, permit me to say, what I call,

    SUBJECT TO THE FLESH MANNER FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, THAT A PERSON WOULD BE WITHIN A PROCESS ACCORDING TO HIS CORRUPTED INTELLIGENCE,

    NOT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT OF GOD, IN LOVE, HUMILITY, PATIENCE,TO PLEASE GOD, BUT AS I SAID TO PLEASE THE CORRUPTED FLESH BODY INSTIGATION, AND ATTITUDE

    But a long fluffy post, well where does our reply begin? It doesn’t. Too much hassle.

    WHERE ACCORDING TO YOUR MATURITY IN SCRIPTURES IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT

    I AM TELLING LIES

    NO HASSLE AT ALL SINCE THERE ARE TO MANY LIES, NO??

    IT IS A MATTER OF PICK ONE WHICH YOU CAN PROOF THROUGH SCRIPTURES, THAT IT IS A LIE,

    THAT WHAT’S I AM ANXIOUS TO DISCUSS, IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY MY TRUTH

    WHICH IS NOT MINE AT ALL!

    BUT IT IS COMING FROM ABOVE, AND I AM MORE THEN PLEASED TO PASS IT ONTO YOU!

    Also, long-winded posts are often done to make an argument look good.

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! IS THAT TRUE???? SO THE MORE I LIE, THE MORE I WOULD BE IN THE TRUTH????????

    WHY DIDN’T I PERSUADED ALL OF YOU ON HEAVENNET, SINCE IN MY POST, CONSIDERING THE LENGTH OF EACH FOR ALL THESE YEARS, WITHOUT A DOUBT SURPASSED ALL THE POSTS POSTED!

    BELIEVE ME, I NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE IN MY WHOLE LIFE FULL OF LIES UP TO TEN YEARS AGO,

    WHEN I WAS BORN IN THE SPIRIT! FOR SURE!!

    I KNOW!!!!

    I FELT THE SPIRIT!!!!

    BUT I NEVER KNEW FROM WHERE IT DID COME, AND TO WHERE IT DID GOD

    But a truth should be able to stand on its own legs,

    BY ALL MEANS BUT FIRST IT HAS TO HAVE LEGS

    even if it is one sentence long.

    THIS TIME IS NOT RIGHT EVEN WITH A SIMPLE YES OR NO AS JESUS DECLARED:

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    A lie often must be accompanied by lots of scaffolding to try and hold it in place.

    SO IT IS NO HEADACHE AT ALL FOR YOU:

    REMOVE THE SCAFFOLDING WHICH MY LIES HOLD ONTO

    AND THERE YOU ARE:

    YOU DISCOVERED THE TRUTH!

    BUT FIRST YOU HAVE TO START REMOVING BIT BY BIT THE SCAFFOLDING BY PICKING UP ONE BIT FROM MY POST AND CONTRADICT ME OTHERWISE:

    MY POSTS STAND

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #800273
     NickHassan 
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    Hi C,

    No you are deeply deceived.

    Enmired in your own ideas.

    #800275
     NickHassan 
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    Hi C,

    Your foundation is the sand of your ideas.

    puff your chest out all you like

    But it cannot stand.

    #800282
     kerwin 
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    Carmel,

    Why do you think t8 will read your long fluffy post you address to him after he tells you he doesn’t read your long fluffy posts?

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