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     terraricca 
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    WAKEUP

    Terra.

    You do nothing to teach anyone, but just spreading negative angry comments.
    The Lord shall judge, and may he have mercy on you.

    wakeup.

    SEE WAKEUP you do it again ;you can show leadership but you do not take it why is that ? for you know you are a fake , you have no truth ,

    you do not answer questions ,this is the worst of believers ;always make claims ,but don’t want to answered for it ; i have showed you that all your claims in prophecy are wrong unless you take my answers for it ,

    show me one quote that was right in prophecy ? that his yours to begin with ?

    you say that you have 40 years of study in scriptures show us what the scriptures really thought you ?

    if anything

    and yes i am negative for you have nothing positive in you that i can say

    #784463
     journey42 
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    Thank you for standing up Gene.
    In the past I have been most upset that this type of behaviour that has been tolerated for so long, with no one standing up, and have disappeared for while.

    Pierre just doesn’t get it. It’s ok to disagree but say why.
    If he’s giving scriptures from Romans about the ungodly, that doesn’t cut it. We have read those and been warned also.
    What he is doing is giving his personal opinion that those scriptures are about us, and saying there you go, I gave proof?
    Proof of what? That there are ungodly people around who changed the truth for a lie?
    He needs to show that what we are preaching goes against doctrine. Not just give general scriptures, but specific scriptures to say hang on brother, you are wrong, take a look at this.

    He said he has done this in the past. This means we have to backtrack millions of posts, to find what he’s said.
    The Word is alive and here now. Peoples views change over time as knowledge grows. If he’s view has not changed one bit, then his growth is stunted. He says we are not his brothers, so he judges that we don’t belong to the kingdom. We consider everyone a brother and try to sharpen them.

    Wakeup left this site a few times when he went away, and this site went dead. I can attest to that because I checked daily and there was very little activity. The prophesy section went of air.

    So I just want to say thank you for standing up, not just for us, but for yourself also. This is all in the hope Pierre can see what he’s doing and change, for the saving of his soul, and not to condemn him.

    #784465
     Camillia 
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    You have been here since 2009? I don’t remember you.

    Journey. You weren’t  here in 2009. I posted as karmarie/shimmer.

    If Wakeup, Devo and myself disagree with anything, we state why we disagree, with explanations and with scriptures. We don’t just call someone a liar or false. These are harsh words.

    Telling people they do not have the spirit of God but have the spirit of (what was it?) just because they do not follow your doctrine is a little harsh imo.

    We all go through various stages. I have been through mine, and I try not to judge anymore. I know sometimes it is hard, but I try to see through emotionally loaded statements.

    #784470
     journey42 
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    Journey. You weren’t here in 2009. I posted as karmarie/shimmer.

    I remember you now. I think you left because you thought that speaking on forums was not good for a woman if I am correct? We even personally messaged each other, and I tried to give you encouragement to not leave.

    If Wakeup, Devo and myself disagree with anything, we state why we disagree, with explanations and with scriptures. We don’t just call someone a liar or false. These are harsh words.

    Telling people they do not have the spirit of God but have the spirit of (what was it?) just because they do not follow your doctrine is a little harsh imo.

    If this was years ago, I apologise. You will find that I havn’t made comments like this in a long while. If so please show me.
    You have not been attacked or accused of lying or being false constantly. Your comments are not being written off as garbage, and I can see Wakeup has explained very nicely to why he doesn’t agree on what you believe, with proof of the scriptures. He is gentle with you, and not harsh, because you are gentle.

    I can’t see where anyone else agrees on your view, yet they leave you alone and save the insults.
    If you were in our shoes, it would be interesting how you would react? Day after day, post after post. It gets tiring after a while, always trying to defend our good conversation in Christ.

    e all go through various stages. I have been through mine, and I try not to judge anymore. I know sometimes it is hard, but I try to see through emotionally loaded statements.

    Thats good, but sometimes we need to stand up and show others that their attitude is not godly. Give reasons, not personal insults, otherwise it just distracts from the topics.

    #784471
     terraricca 
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    You weren’t here in 2009. I posted as karmarie/shimmer

    that’s who you are ,i was wondering about that

    #784490
     terraricca 
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    wakeup

    but i do not go around and tell people that “GOD CREATED EVIL ” and that ;God’s own voice (word)came on earth ;

    not in scriptures i mean the whole scriptures of truth

    #784523
     GeneBalthrop 
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    CARMILLA……..SO YOUR SHIMMER, i did not realize that, i always liked your posts , i know i might not always agreed with all of them, but i aways liked how you stuck up for good brothers who have left the site. I have seem many good brothers and sisters who have left the site over the years. It’s good to know that you were shimmer i still like that name sis. I hope all is well with you and yours.

    I know i was hard on Pierre in my last posts to him, but as Journey said sometime you have to stand up, espically when the abuseses get out of hand. We are susposed to be here to edify each other, not degrade and abuse each other. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

    #784526
     terraricca 
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    gene

    I know i was hard on Pierre in my last posts to him, but as Journey said sometime you have to stand up, espically when the abuseses get out of hand. We are susposed to be here to edify each other, not degrade and abuse each other. IMO

    did you ever went on a construction job were all apprentice carpenters want to do journeyman work and show of , ? did you ever see foundation done with that bunch ? would you build your own with them in charge ,would you really sharpen your sword with them if yes how would that be ?

    edification must be done in scriptural truth if not all you may learn could take you out of the truth of God ,

    we only should discuss things we know for sure ,and what we are not sure of we should inquire if there’s anyone that has that answer but do not claim you know when you really do not ,and there is where the problem lays,

    even John says i don’t know ,when he did not know ;but the angel told him ,

    #784529
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Terricca……..i believe i have been on more construction jobs then you ever have in fact i owned a large electrical construction co, for 29 years and i have worked many, many,many journeymen and men who were not at that level , i knew all my men and exactly what they were capable of. I also have employed many farm worker to harvest my vineyards over the years. I would never put a apprentist to do a journeymans work in the first place, and i would not stand for a journeyman, to belittle a apprentist and make charater assanations or demeaning remarks about him continually, trying to present himself as better then others are, i would get rid of that wicked trouble maker and replace him with a journeyman who was considerit and able to teach the apprentists what they need to learn patiently with a kind spirit toward all. You are in no way like that i assure you of that. Being rude and arrogance has no place here or in the kingdom of God either, by doing that you are presenting no fruit of the spirit of God in you. IMO

    Another thing what ever i believe scripture is saying to us, that is what i believe, and have posted thousands of scriptures to back up what i believe over and over here. So don’t try to present me as a person who is a liar and dosen’t believe the words of God, just because you haven’t the ability to understand what i and others say and the scripitures that we use to support our conclusions on those subject matters. I am no novice about life, nor scriptures,nor the words of Jesus and God the Father, that i need a arrogant person to demean me or anyone else here as far as that goes. You need to repent of this wickedness your doing,just because people just didagree with you and your assumption about them and what they say. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………gene

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     Camillia 
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    Hi Journey.

     

    If this was years ago, I apologise. You will find that I havn’t made comments like this in a long while.

     

    No probs. And Good! People change often for the better, I know I have.

     

    Hi Gene.

    CARMILLA……..SO YOUR SHIMMER, i did not realize that, i always liked your posts , i know i might not always agreed with all of them, but i aways liked how you stuck up for good brothers who have left the site. I have seem many good brothers and sisters who have left the site over the years. It’s good to know that you were shimmer i still like that name sis. I hope all is well with you and yours.

     

    Haha. Thanks. Same to you.

     

    Now, back to the topic of brother Terr!

    What Terraricca needs to do I think is avoid the use of the word “you”. He needs to “own his statements” So, Ter, my challenge to you is to not use the word “YOU” when addressing others. Try using “I” statements instead. When you own your statements, you are saying, “This is how “I” feel”, “This is how “I” see it”, “This is what “I” think”.

     

    Might work?

     

     

     

     

     

    #784555
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Carmilla…….my dad taught me when you point your finger at some one else lokk down and you will see yoy have three fingers pointing back at you. I think what you have sujested Pierre to try may help him get along better here, i hope so. I hate to see people get discouraged and leave the site. We need to try to all get alone the best we can, we are all still learning and none of us has all the truth, we just see in part as Paul said. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

    #784559
     terraricca 
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    gene

    Terricca……..i believe i have been on more construction jobs then you ever have in fact i owned a large electrical construction co, for 29 years and i have worked many, many,many journeymen and men who were not at that level , i knew all my men and exactly what they were capable of. I also have employed many farm worker to harvest my vineyards over the years. I would never put a apprentist to do a journeymans work in the first place, and i would not stand for a journeyman, to

    nice ;but i beat you by a mile i owned my first company at 23 years old and that was 51 years ago ,I have run my own general construction company, for years ,

    but this is not what i was implying ;what i was saying is that it is hard to discuss with someone that has only a basic knowledge in a trade but want to show that he knows what a journeyman knows or a person that only read scriptures on and of and part of a religion denomination ;

    anyhow ,this is out of context, and get like man’s views,out we go

    #784561
     terraricca 
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    gene

    Carmilla…….my dad taught me when you point your finger at some one else lokk down and you will see yoy have three fingers pointing back at you. I think what you have sujested Pierre to try may help him get along better here, i hope so. I hate to see people get discouraged and leave the site. We need to try to all get alone the best we can, we are all still learning and none of us has all the truth, we just see in part as Paul said. IMO

    I know what you say and I am very familiar with it ;but since you say that I have 3 fingers pointing at me this would mean that 3 finger accusing me of the same thing of what i told anyone right ?

    and how can I get along with what others say that what is not true to scriptures ? do you mean that their are many godly truths ?

    show me for i only know one ,

    #784562
     terraricca 
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    Carmilla

    Now, back to the topic of brother Terr!

    What Terraricca needs to do I think is avoid the use of the word “you”. He needs to “own his statements” So, Ter, my challenge to you is to not use the word “YOU” when addressing others. Try using “I” statements instead. When you own your statements, you are saying, “This is how “I” feel”, “This is how “I” see it”, “This is what “I” think”.

    Might work?

    this is something that i do and not really mean ,yes ,i will try hard to reformulate my introduction ,as I ,

    and thanks for this little but important point ,

    I believe we came on this site about the same time is it not ?

    #784572
     Camillia 
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    Carmilla…….my dad taught me when you point your finger at some one else lokk down and you will see yoy have three fingers pointing back at you. I think what you have sujested Pierre to try may help him get along better here, i hope so. I hate to see people get discouraged and leave the site. We need to try to all get alone the best we can, we are all still learning and none of us has all the truth, we just see in part as Paul said. IMO

     

    Exactly Gene.

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