The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block

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     miia 
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    Hi Miia,

    T8 has written, perhaps unwisely, that my fruit is evil though we have shown him kindness and given him hospitality in the past.

    May God be kinder to him.

    Ha ha Nick… YOU displaying bad fruit? I personally have never seen it. You are peaceful, patient, kind and long suffering, from what I have seen. You are one of the few…

     

    #820776
     miia 
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    Hi Miia,

    By their Fruit you will know them.

    Not their fancy words or their copied ideas.

    We know of the fruit of Peter and Paul.

    What of these others?

    I studied Art and Humanities recently, and learned somewhat how to study text from the past.

    In the beginning I used to print and study texts (without realizing that they might not even be genuine), such was my hunger for truth back then.

    #820780
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Miia,

    I think he confuses words with fruit.

    When the morning star rises in his heart he will see light.

    #820783
     miia 
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    Yes… the morning star.

    #820789
     NickHassan 
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    Hi ,

    trinity is a false god.

    Robbing millions of a relationship with the loving God of Israel entrapping them in false religion.

     

    Little children beware of idols

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     t8 
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    Accusations day and night is a fruit of the Devil right?

    God loves his children and is patient with them. And only God can scold continuously and say that he is right. Nick needs to realise this. He has no idea how many he has put off with his ‘I am right you are wrong attitude’. For sure, use scripture to prove doctrines and teachings as wrong. This is what I so and encourage others to do so. But he scolds day and night. He did it to Gene and now he agrees with him on at least one point. Nick denies that Jesus was the messiah until his baptism or until he actually saved people from death. He denies that Jesus was born the Lord too.

    The Antichrist spirit will give itself away because it cannot help but teach that Jesus is not the messiah or the son. Those under the influence of that spirit will have a multitudes of spin on this, but they will do it one way or another. For example, Islam teaches that Jesus is the messiah. But they also say that he didn’t finish his work and that he was not supposed to die on a cross. So God sent Muhammad to finish the job.

    Nick basically teaches that the baby that was born to Mary was not technically the messiah, but was a mere man only. Enough said because scripture directly conflicts with his teaching. It is plain to see.

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     t8 
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    @jael

    You say that he didn’t come in the flesh. If you argument is to solidify this position, then what is the use of me even reading your argument. I wouldn’t dare believe that he didn’t come in the flesh. Until you can tell me you repent and believe that he did come in the flesh, then what is the use in hearing the details?

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     t8 
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    I tell you what robs people of faith in God is other Believers who basically teach all are wrong and only they are right. We can show scripture to reveal truth and dispel false teachings. But those teachers who make judgements about others based on their own understanding fail because they forget every man is right in his own eyes. If they do not use scripture or ignore scripture when reproved, then they will be a victim of their own righteousness.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Then the disciples came and said to him,

    ’Do you know that the Pharisees were offended by this statement?’

    But he answered and said

    ’Every plant which my Heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted

    Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man both will fall into a pit’

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Yes Jesus is an ordinary Man just like you.

    Born of a woman and, as a Jew, born under the Law

    He was made extraordinary by His anointing at the river Jordan.

     

    Is it important to you to imagine he had a head start?

    #821006
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Tradition would tell you that because God was his Father he was not born like us subject to lusts and temptation.

    But scripture tells us he was tempted like just like us but never sinned.(Heb 4.15)

    Scripture says he is an overcomer – that we can follow.(rev 3)

    He said that he was a son of man.

     

    jb 25.4

    How then can man be justified with God?

    or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

    Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea even the stars are not clean in His sight.

    How much less man, that is a worm? And the son of man, which is a worm?

     

    Jesus was born into our realm and because he had victory we have hope.

    Perhaps it is time you let go the weak hand of useless tradition?

    But perhaps you still like to have your ears tickled?

     

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     t8 
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    Nick you believe that Jesus wasn’t the Christ for the vast majority of his life here on Earth. Does that mean you lean more toward the Antichrist spirit? That spirit will one way or another deny Jesus is Christ either outright or in subtle forms like Islam. Worse still, it is clearly written for you, so no excuse can be given. And why become Gene’s disciple? Was his lie repeated enough to become truth for you? Did he wear you down?

    I have the witness of scripture whereas, you have to admit that this is what you are opposing. You are not opposing me because I stand with scripture.

    “Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.”

    If the scripture cannot sway you, then what can? Surely I cannot because the scripture is not sourced in me. But rejecting scripture is to reject the one who inspired it.

    Dangerous territory I would have thought.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    You used to muse about Jesus being an angel of God.

    Did you drop that one?

    Now your dogma is that he was born anointed.

    No scriptures about when.

     

    Why do you want to teach?

    #822192
     t8 
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    Jesus is a messenger of God. He was sent into the world by God, with the message of salvation. He preached the gospel, to announce the glad tidings of God, that he comes into the world. He said it like this:

    “I must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent.”

    And so it is that Jesus is a messenger even the most important messenger of God. The word ‘angel’ is ‘messenger’ which you seem unable to acknowledge.

    Men can be angels as they can be messengers too. Messengers is not a species or tribe.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….Yes Jesus was sent out into the world to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God, that does not say he was sent from out side this world and came to earth to do that as you and many suppose, does it? Jesus’ mission of preaching the gosple in the world started “after” he was anointed with the SPIRIT OF GOD, and became the “Messiah of God”. Come on t8 you surely know this don’t you brother?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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