The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Many have come and presented what they believe is the sum of God’s Word.

    Some even claim to understand prophecy.

     

    Then they present their own thoughts dressed up in religious garb.

    Are you one of them?

     

    #820558
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Millions of sincere devout people worship a trinity that does not exist.

    Not only are they beset with the problems and frustrations of unanswered prayer they risk the ire of God.

     

    He hates the whore who offers this nonsense.

    #820559
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….so prove me wrong then, why horse around with empty words, show us the truth about what i have said if you know it’s wrong, you offer nothing but empty. Why descourage others who may also come to see this. Its no matter to me, so let every man read it and draw his or her own conclusion. I have apsolutly no doubt about what I have written. Have you ever considered that you might be preventing the truth from other brethern?

    Please don’t compare me with people who worship the trinity, I have long ago stood against it, and even had an article against it published in the acts magazine years ago. Do you rely on the spirit of God to teach you by reaveling truth to you or are you fearfull and unbelieving, Relying on your own carnel mind to let you understand because you can’t see it yet? If i am wrong surely GOD THE FATHER will reveal it to me and i would repent. But as yet that has not happened. No one seem able to convience me otherwise. You have not offered any proof of any thing i said was wrong concerning 2ths2 or even what the term ANTICHRIST really means.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    You keep doing what you will do.

    Let others help you.

    #820563
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….so give me the help then, by showing where i am wrong in what i have said.

    Look I am more then willing to descuss what i have posted on this subject OR ANY OTHER, but you have offered nothing but sarcastic statements about MY PERSON. Bad form Nick. When i disagree with what someone says, i try to show why i disagree, not try to make the person look like they don’t know what they are talking about. Look I AM NOT A NOVICE, I HAVE BEEN STUDYING SCRIPTURES FOR OVER 50 YEARS, HAVE HAD MANY,MANY, MANY ANSWERED PRAYERS IN MY LIFE.

    The spirit of truth has shown me many things over the years, and i know i am right about this, because the spirit of Truth, assures me of this, it’s sad to me you can’t see it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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     t8 
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    Nick, you ask where have you said that Jesus is a body. Do you not teach that Jesus is but a flesh thing, but was anointed by the Spirit and the Spirit spoke through the vessel? This is what you appear to teach. I hope it is not the case that you teach Jesus as mere flesh only.

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     t8 
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    @jael. You ask about Jesus as the ‘prototype’ son. It means he is the first of many. I don’t mean to demean Jesus with my following example, but to describe the meaning of the word itself, think of a prototype car which is the first of many to follow modelled after the original, or first image.

    As for the meaning of son, you can think of the word ‘children’ or ‘offspring’ of God.

    #820572
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    You expect us to believe that a nonexistent false Jesus sought to be worshiped by men.

    No doubt you will explains away the inconsistencies.

    #820573
     NickHassan 
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    HiT8,

    He is a man just like you-body ,soul and spirit.

    Jesus of Nazareth was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power.

     

    Do you teach he was born without a natural human spirit?

    #820577
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….is not the Jesus preached by fallen christianity preached and worshiped as a God?, Yes it is a “false” Jesus yes it is a false “image” of Jesus created by fallen christanity. Did not even Jesus say that “IN HIS NAME” people would be decieved. Did he not say “MANY” WOULD COME IN “MY” SAYING I AM, AND DECIEVE “MANY”. “SAYING I AM”, WHAT?, A GOD, A PREXISTING BEING, SAYING HE WAS A GOD, and therefore had no need to be baptized with the anointing spirit of God, “ANTICHRIST’S” BY REASONING he was a God already AND THEREFORE HAD NO NEED TO BE ANOINTED BY GOD’S SPIRIT. They have rejected Jesus as a pure human being,who came into his existence through the flesh exactly as all humanity has, they have changed the true “IMAGE” of our human brother into a God, but if they were of the truth, they would, know that there is ‘ONLY” ONE GOD, and “ONE MEDIATOR ‘between that GOD and man, “THE MAN” JESUS the anointed one.

    Nick it’s all about Jesus,he is the only human being who has taken his seat in the temple of God, no one else ever has. Or ever will sit in the temple of God and be desplayed as a GOD, A “LIE” about JESUS HIMSELF, PREACHED BY THE FALLEN CHURCHES.

    YOU OF ALL HERE SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING THIS TOGETHER BROTHER.

    HE THAT HAS AN EAR LET HIM HEAR.

    Peace and love to all who understand this……..gene

    #820578
     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8…..please read “and” study carefully, and come back and explain your term “mere flesh” Heb 2:6-14.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #820579
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Please address my question.

     

    PUTTING IT TOGETHER is your way.

    It is not a natural fit.

     

    When  did the false imaginary Jesus sit in the temple of God and seek to be worshiped?

     

     

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     Jael 
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    t8, I see you have no intention to answer my question but instead to post reply evasive responses.

    Let me then put some propositions to you which you will agree to and I will say, ‘Why didn’t you just reply to me like this?’

    Do you agree that:

    1) Jesus was born as Human Being, not a pre-existent ‘god-thing’ in a human body?

    2) That this same Jesus was samely Born Holy and Sinless in the manner of the first Human Being in Scriptures, Adam? That this Jesus resisted temptation and sin and thus remained SINLESS and HOLY thoughtout his life and into life as a heavenly Being.

    3) That ‘Son of God’ does not mean a ‘pro-creation’ from a Spirit (We know from scriptures that a spirit cannot pro-create, yes?). That ‘Son of God’ means exactly what Jesus spoke to the Jews:’One who does the works of the Father; the works of God’ ‘I only said I was Son of God… if I am not doing the works of my Father…’ and another verse say,’Everyone who follows the Holy Spirit are children of God’.

    Just these questions for the moment.

    #820581
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jael,

    Jesus was conceived and born sinless like any other human, including Adam and you.

    It is indwelling lusts that conceive and give birth to sin in the flesh by our actions as James explains.

     

     

     

    #820588
     Jael 
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    Hello Nick, glad to hear someone else state this fact that Jesus was born as a human being, sinless and holy just as Adam was.

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