June 22, 2017 at 7:40 am #819641JodiParticipant
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Tradition teaches that the serpent in the Garden of Eden is a fallen angels. I believe however that the truth is entirely different! There is much repetitiveness in my argument, this is done on purpose in hopes that what the scriptures are truly saying will sink in.
Scripture calls men serpents equating that to mean a liar or one who is deceitful. Scripture specifically links all 3 together within a verse, calling a man a serpent because he is lying or deceiving. Scripture also clearly explains what draws a man to lie and to deceive and it is identified as coming from our weak flesh. Even further it is explained by scripture that our weak flesh when it lies or commits other sins is acting like a wild animal following it’s carnal mind or nature. This makes even more sense as to why men would be referred to as serpents. Mankind was given the gift of an imagination. He was also created with ignorance and the desire to seek knowledge and achievement. Scripture speaks of men sinning out of ignorance. Scripture speaks of men lying through their own imaginations! Scripture also identifies men who want to be like the most High, that they want to be like God. We also have throughout history men demanding others to call them and worship them as a god. We see in scripture men have a problem with vanity and in Ecclesiastes man is warned that all is vanity if he thinks his fate is different from the animals. An animal’s fate is to return to the dust so too is man’s. Think about this paragraph and connect it to the sin in the Garden! A lie, a desire to be wise, a desire to be like God, and vain belief against the reality of death.
Man lies through his own imagination and when he does he is called a serpent
Man desires knowledge and wants to be like God.
Man in his vanity thinks he can be immortal, that his fate is not like the animals.
Paul teaches that to be carnally minded is death, and that the carnal mind is at enmity against God. He speaks of the spirit of man against the Spirit of God. He tells us that those in Christ receiving the Spirit of God are no longer receiving the spirit of bondage again to fear. He says Christ crucified the old man that the body of sin might be destroyed. Paul says to the Hebrews that Jesus in his flesh and blood through death he could destroy him that had power over death, the devil (slanderer), and deliver them through fear of death were all their lifetime where subject to bondage.
sin comes from man’s OWN IMAGINATION, his own desires, his own will, and from his ignorance
man is a wild animal serving his carnal nature producing sin
man= serpent= slanderer (devil)
carnal mind= enmity against God
carnal mind= death
power of death is held in our carnal minds
the law gives sin its power
spirit of bondage= spirit of man living in fear of death
the carnal mind acts sinfully being persuaded by the fear of death
Jesus destroyed the old man, the body of sin, the spirit within man that follows carnal nature
Jesus destroyed him the devil (slanderer) (old man) who had power over death
Jesus gives us victory over sin and death
No scripture states that Jesus destroyed the powers of fallen angels
Jesus abolished death and brought life, the carnal mind brings death, the carnal mind is equated to be a liar by a man following his own spirit, the devil means slanderer not fallen angel. Man is certifiably identified as a liar and a serpent.
Genesis 3 tells us that the serpent was more crafty than any other beast. Genesis also tells us that man is to rule over the beasts, why? Everyone knows, it’s not up for discussion that man is more intelligent more crafty than any of the animals God created on earth. The serpent in the garden is a liar and he represents man’s imagination, his ignorance, his desire for knowledge, his desire to be like God. The serpent represents the spirit of man, the spirit that follows his carnal nature.
The punishment given to the serpent is that he will crawl on his belly and lick the dust. This is symbolic representing the reality of death that man is now given, and how he will struggle to stay alive serving his belly.
Romans 16:18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind on earthly things.
Psalms 44:25 For bowed to the dust hath our soul, Cleaved to the earth hath our belly.
Micah 7:17 They lick dust as a serpent, as fearful things of earth, They tremble from their enclosures, Of Jehovah our God they are afraid, Yea, they are afraid of Thee.
Clearly the serpent in Genesis represents man’s carnal nature and man’s carnal nature was cursed through the reality of death creating great enmity between the spirit in man and God. We were placed in bondage to carnally serve our belly through the fear of death.
The serpents seed is our carnal nature and the woman’s seed is that of Jesus. When we rid ourselves from tradition and hear the words throughout scripture and let them soak in, the truth becomes clear, the truth does not create contradiction, the truth gives us a deeper understanding to ourselves, to Christ and what He accomplished, as well as what the Spirit of God is able to do conquer our carnal nature and bring us life and peace.
I am fully prepared to give a massive amount of scripture!!June 27, 2017 at 5:31 am #819667JodiParticipant
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In Genesis God tells us two times that the imagination of man is wicked, even from youth.
Scripture tells us that our imagination creates lies.
God also warns Cain that sin lies at the door and it creates a desire that will RULE over him.
1 John 3 warns not to go in the way of Cain who belonged to the evil one.
Jesus says “you are of your father the devil and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a manslayer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth.”
King David tells us that the human mind and heart is cunning and it plots evil. He repeatedly speaks of man being a deceiver. He says deceit is in the heart of those who devise evil.
Isaiah asks, “are you not children of the rebellion, offspring of deceit?”
The book of Acts says, “you are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil.”
Paul tells the Ephesians, “lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit.
In Jeremiah it says, “and ye have done worse than your fathers, for behold you walk everyone after the imagination of his evil heart.” “There is no hope, but we will walk after our OWN devises, and we will everyone do the imagination of his evil heart.
James tells us, “EVERY man is tempted when he is DRAWN away by his OWN lust and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished bringeth forth death.”
Paul tells us that by ONE man sin entered the world, and through sin death. He says by one man’s offense death reigned by one.
We are told also in Genesis that all flesh had corrupted their way and God said this occured through man’s own imagination.
Paul tells us also that Adam was not deceived, Eve was deceived. Paul warns brethren not to be deceived like Eve was through the craftyness that came from the serpent. He warns not to let your mind be corrupted.
We are told throughout the OT that man corrupts HIMSELF and he corrupts others. In Jude we read, “but these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know NATURALLY, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.”
In Jeremiah we read that God kicked out the prophets from His House because they prophesied lies from their own imaginations.
We also read in scripture that when man lies or deceives he is called a specific beast, he is called a SERPENT!
The serpent in the Garden, the deceiver, the man who transgressed and brought sin into the world and death through sin was Adam. He tricked Eve and waited to see what would happen to her then he partook of the fruit himself.
The serpent REPRESENTS the carnal nature of Adam and the carnal nature in all men. This is who the devil is! Could it not be laid out more clearly when you follow the word of hundreds of scriptures? Once this nature was exposed to the reality of death it was bound to serve it’s flesh in order to live, thus creating the enmity between it and God. What happened after the fall? Man, through his own imagination and evil thoughts, corrupted his way to the point that God brought the flood. Finally reconciliation came and it resulted by Jesus destroying the old man. This same old man we are told in Colossians is RESPONSIBLE for lying to others with his deeds. This old man we are told was corrupt by his own deceitful lusts.
In the bible it is humans who deceive and they do so out of their own imaginations following their own desires from their carnal NATURE. The devil, the slanderer, that holds the power of death is man. This is exactly what the scriptures are telling us. Understanding that the word devil does not mean fallen angel but simply slanderer or one who deceives is key. Understanding that the word angel in the bible means messenger and doesin fact represent humans, as in the case of John the Baptist and the messengers in Jude and 2 Peter, is also key in order to rid traditional false doctrine.
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