The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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     t8 
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    Did you doubt that the Holy Spirit that spoke through Jesus Christ was before Abraham?

    Did you doubt that it was Jesus Christ speaking only that which was in accordance with God’s will? It seems you doubt. You also doubt that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. You say Jesus was not born the Christ. Your teaching is your own and comes from your own understanding. We believe the scriptures Nick.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    So you say.

    But you block your ears.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    So anxious.

    So much needing to be in control.

    So frightened of change but then how can we hear the Spirit?

     

    If we live in the Spirit let us also walk in the Spirit.gal5.25

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     Anthony 
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    Hi Jodi .     You said;

    The Word of God that contained Jesus the CHRIST and eternal life did exist.

    How can a Word cntaine Jesus Christ?   The Word is this the voice of the Father? So the voice of the Fathr’s words became Jesus Christ? Was still  all things created through the Son before the world was?being the firstborn of all creation. God bless.

     

     

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     t8 
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    But you block your ears.

    I understand what you are saying, but scripture says otherwise. Thus I discount what you teach, rather than block my ears.

    Your leaven is opposite and not what scripture teaches us. Jesus was born the Christ, thus Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Your confession is to deny Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

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     t8 
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    Hi T8,

    So anxious.

    So much needing to be in control.

    So frightened of change but then how can we hear the Spirit?

    This message is for you Nick. Apply it to yourself because you can change yourself. When you have changed, then you will be able to help others to change too. That would be a win win situation.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Literal understanding has never been the key to understanding the spiritual Word.

    But dig yourself in and defend your shallow views though few believe you.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

    Yes the long promised messiah has come.

     

    But you should not apply rudimentary logic and say this implies an anointed man existed before being born.

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     t8 
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    But when Jesus came in the flesh, you deny he was the Christ.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Again you presume scripture to mean he was already anointed before he was born.

    PRESUMPTION is an alternative to faith.

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     t8 
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    I don’t presume anything from my own understanding. I simply believe this to be true and it drives you nuts.

    Luke 2:11
    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    Matthew 1:18
    This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph,

    2 John 1:7
    I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

    You deny all three scriptures as they are written. Instead you contend that you have this spirit that helps you to see that Jesus was not born the messiah, that Jesus the messiah was not born in Bethlehem when Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, and that you not believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh because you teach that Jesus was born in the flesh, but Jesus Christ was not born the day he came in the flesh. Thus, when he came in the flesh, he was not Jesus Christ in your view.

    I don’t think anyone is convinced so it is only yourself you are hurting. Although, I think Gene pretty much aligns with you on this already. You and Gene seem to believe a lot in common. He has taught you many things?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    No your misunderstood scriptures do not upset me.

    But it is sad to see someone with your experience still walking in your own lights.

     

    Dig deeper

    #835190
     t8 
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    So if I dig deeper, then this becomes that?

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    When Jesus died, a Savior was born to you, and when Jesus was 30 or so, he became the Messiah, at the Jordan? And he became Lord too, but too hard to pin an exact date on that, but definitely not when he came in the flesh in Bethlehem when he was born.

    Um, no Nick. It doesn’t become that when you dig deeper. Who are you trying to kid? You are just plain wrong and pride is blocking the way for you to see clearly.

    This digging in your heels and denying what is clearly written is folly.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    The Spirit wrote it through men.

    You do need the Spirit to understand it.

    Using literal thinking with logic leads to confusion.

    Some even come to think Jesus is a god who came to earth.

    Or, like the Jehovah’s Witness idea, that the Son of God was an angel.

    Imagine such folly?

    #835192
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Since you can judge others for pride you must be awash with humility.

    Good for you.

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