The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    BECAUSE OF could also mean FOR according to Strongs.

    In other words IN PREPARATION FOR.

    It allows a different view of the verse

     

    #814285
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    That passage does describe it.

    #814286
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    I have no fixed ideas on this but welcome the views of others.

    #814291
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….FOR OR BECAUSE OF, could mean, “for the sake of”, that the was i see it.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #814300
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    That is how to learn.

    #814307
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Heb 12

    You have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,

    My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
    Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
    For those whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
    And He scourges every son whom He receives.”

    It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Furthermore, we had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. 11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

    Righteousness is the fruit of submission to godly discipline

    #814308
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,
    Soak up the rain of grace.
    For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God;
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     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    Yes, to both of your posts!

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     t8 
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    Hi T8,

    In trying to expose error you show you are in error.

    You cannot hear the voice of the Spirit in the words of Jesus and this is why you teach a SUPERMAN that we cannot follow.

    Is that the same superman you use to teach for years on this site when according to you, you were also correct then.

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     t8 
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    It is obvious by now with the scriptures that have been quoted that Jesus is no ordinary man. He became a man and once existed in the form of God. He was born the Christ, Lord, and son of God as attested to by the angel of God. He is called the ‘Word of God’. He is the firstborn of all creation and the image of the invisible God.

    These points are all provable by scripture and thus clearly show us that Jesus was no ordinary man. Time to finish up this thread and move on if you thought otherwise. Don’t let your pride motivate you to fight the truth. You are not fighting me, but scripture. Be wise.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Only OBVIOUS  to those who do not know the Spirit.

    There is more than what your eyes currently can see.

     

    #814502
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    I have learned from the Spirit.

    Are you stuck in tradition?

    #814509
     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8…..NICK, IS RIGHT, you are stuck in tradition. I know you say you are not a trinitarian, like TERRARICCA, but you both believe and teach much of what they believe, like the prexistence of JESUS, AND MANY OTHER FALSE TEACHINGS THEY ASCRIBE TO. Seek and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH FROM GOD THE FATHER, perhaps by chance he will enlighten you brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #814511
     kerwin 
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    t8,

    He became a man and once existed in the form of God.

    The idea that God has an outward form is an absurd teaching as God created the universe that allows outward forms, whether that of angels, humans, or others, to exist.

    Its either God created the heavens and the earth or he did not.

    Humanity was created in the form of God but went in search of schemes.

    Through faith in Jesus Christ, who bears that express form, those that believe will be restored to the form of God.

    Why follow a teaching that is at odds with the first verse of the Bible?

    #814548
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    If Jesus was born anointed and was led by the Spirit from birth

    why does scripture say he was born under the Law?

    gal 5.18

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