The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Are you sure you are not the one preaching a different Jesus?

    #810583
     kerwin 
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    t8, miia, and whomever else is concerned,

    There is the ordinary human like in “…but was in all points tempted like as we are,…” (Hebrews 4:15)

    He was not given the ordinary measure of faith. That is what believers aim for according to Ephesians 4:13.

    #810584
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8

    Acts 10

    You know of Jesus of Nazareth,

    HOW GOD ANOINTED HIM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER

    and

    HOW HE WENT ABOUT DOING GOOD AND HEALING ALLWHO WERE OPPRESSED BY THE DEVIL:
    FOR GOD WAS WITH HIM

     

    So you think he was doing these things BEFORE THE JORDAN?

     

    You do not ascribe the power to the transformation by the Holy Spirit?

    You do not believe God was with him?

     

     

     

    #810585
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Jn 14.1

    Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    #810586
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    That is a good one.

    I believe he is speaking along the same lines as Paul; except with believe as the pertinent verb.

    1 Corinthians 11:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

    #810587
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick, and Kerwin, and Gene, and anyone else in the Brigade,

    How do you account for Christ saying…

    How say they that Christ is David’s son?
    David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD
    said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
    Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    David therefore calleth him(Christ) Lord,
    how is he(Christ) then his(David’s) son?” (Luke 20:41-44)

    Well?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #810592
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Yes the Christ is the son of David by birth.

    Of course he was yet to be anointed.

     

    Does scripture conflict with your reasoned view of the words?

    #810593
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    Of course Jesus’ birth mother’s lineage goes back to David.

    But the point Jesus is making appears to be escaping you, which is:
    He himself is “the spirit of Christ” – which Micah 5:2 is clear about.

    Your view appears to be in conflict with Jesus’ words in Luke 20:41-44.

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    Ed J

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     t8 
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    The folly is to believe Jesus Christ was an ordinary man.

    He was anything but as he spoke and worked in the power of the Spirit in him.

    We can follow him through the death of water and the new life of baptism in the same Spirit.

    Rom 6.4-8

    Nick, the title is “The Ordinary Jesus Brigade”, not Jesus Christ.

    What Nick is not telling you @miia is that he thinks Jesus is an ordinary man, but only became extraordinary once he was baptised at the Jordan.

    #810596
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Do you think he was an extraordinary man before his anointing?

    His neighbours did not think so.

    Perhaps tradition does?

    #810597
     kerwin 
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    t8,

    Previously I stated,

    There is the ordinary human like in “…but was in all points tempted like as we are,…” (Hebrews 4:15)

    The folly is to believe Jesus is not an ordinary man for then you disagree with the words “…but was in all points tempted like as we are,…” and create an obstacle for both yourself and those that believe your words.

    #810598
     kerwin 
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    Ed,

    “How say they that Christ is David’s son?

    The answer is “as of the flesh” and is provided in Scripture. (Romans 1:3)

    He is God’s son as of the Spirit and Spirit is superior to the flesh, when David knew when He said “The Lord said to my Lord”. (Psalms 110:1)

    It is possible that the Pharisees knew the answer as some Jews refer to the Christ as the Son of the living God to this day.

    #810601
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Were the apostles who followed Jesus into the anointing at Pentecost EXTRAORDINARY men beforehand?

     

    #810608
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    Of course Jesus’ birth mother’s lineage goes back to King David.

    But the point Jesus is making appears to be totally escaping you, which is:
    He himself is “the spirit of Christ” – which Micah 5:2 and Luke 20:41-44 make clear.

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    Ed J

    Nick?

    #810609
     Ed J 
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    He himself is “the spirit of Christ” – which Micah 5:2 and Luke 20:41-44 make clear.

    Hi Nick,

    Just reiterate your beliefs over and over,
    and maybe just maybe these facts will go away.

    NOT!

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