The gospel

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     david 
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    Hey Nick,
    Are you saying everyone shouldn't be given the chance to hear the greatest news ever? The good news of the kingdom?
    Don't get me wrong. It's God that draws people to him. But we are “God's fellow workers,” and we are to obey his commands to share this good news with everyone.

    Mankinds greatest need is spiritual. Why not share with others what they need most?

    If many people weren't reached with this message of hope/warning message, wouldn't they be able to make the charge: “No one told me! It isn't fair.”

    Are you saying someone who has the power to heal can remain silent?

    What about bloodguilt?

    If God says to someone wicked: You will die if you continue this way,
    and you do nothing to warn that one, he being wicked, will die, but his blood will be on your hands. Actually, let me find the scripture I'm thinking of….
    There's a principal found in Ezekiel:
    EZEKIEL 3:18-19
    “When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will positively die,’ and you do not actually warn him and speak in order to warn the wicked one from his wicked way to preserve him alive, he being wicked, in his error he will die, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand. But as for you, in case you have warned someone wicked and he does not actually turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked way, he himself for his error will die; but as for you, you will have delivered your own soul.”

    EZEKIEL 33:7-9
    ““Now as regards you, O son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and at my mouth you must hear [the] word and give them warning from me. When I say to someone wicked, ‘O wicked one, you will positively die!’ but you actually do not speak out to warn the wicked one from his way, he himself as a wicked one will die in his own error, but his blood I shall ask back at your own hand. But as regards you, in case you actually warn someone wicked from his way [for him] to turn back from it but he actually does not turn back from his way, he himself will die in his own error, whereas you yourself will certainly deliver your own soul.”

    1 TIMOTHY 4:16
    “Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Stay by these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.”

    The work and burden is of the lord? Nick? you say?
    1 CORINTHIANS 3:6-9
    “I planted, A·pol´los watered, but God kept making [it] grow; so that neither is he that plants anything nor is he that waters, but God who makes [it] grow. Now he that plants and he that waters are one, but each [person] will receive his own reward according to his own labor. FOR WE ARE GOD'S FELLOW WORKERS. YOU people are God’s field under cultivation, God’s building.”

    You say some are “equipped as evangelists but not all.” Well, some are maybe better equipped than others. We all have a mouth.

    To not use the gift of speech to praise Jehovah and make his name known seems a sin.
    JAMES 4:17
    “if one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.”

    #8955
     NickHassan 
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    Hi David,
    So the warning to Ezekiel has been taken personally by your organisation and out of fear of sin you preach?

    #8958
     david 
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    Hows it going Nick,
    Maybe you forget the times that I explained why we preach.
    It is out of love for Jehovah and neighbor.
    –Because we love Jehovah, we obey the scriptural commands to share the good news with everyone.
    –Because we love our neighbors, we share with them this most wonderful news.
    I think that's been made rather clear in past posts.

    Is it out of fear of sin we preach? you say.

    The scripture says: 'If you know how to do what's right and do not do it, it is a sin.'
    Sharing with people life saving information is the right thing to do, always. Is it not? One does this out of love. People are starving spiritually, lost, frightened, not knowing what is happening in the world, not knowing what is to come, wondering why there is wickedness and suffering. Out of love, we share the good news of the kingdom with them. It is what they need most. Sharing this good news is the right thing to do, is it not? The scripture in James cannot be ignored with regard to sharing this good news.

    –Fear of sin is not the motivating factor for the preaching work however. The sanctification of Jehovah's name is the important thing. His name has been slandered. The scripture in James is rarely used with reference to the preaching work. Rather, love for God and neighbor are stressed.

    THE WARNING BY EZEKIEL
    Has it been taken personally by our organization? Should it not be taken personally by everyone who looks at this scripture and sees how God feels about people. It is a glimpse into God's reasoning.
    Nick, if God says he's going to destroy the wicked, which he has said–And you don't do anything to warn the wicked, they being wicked will die in their own error. But what will God think of you Nick? Or what will it mean for someone who ignores this principal and just tries to save themselves?

    How merciful it is for Jehovah God to see to it that ample warning is given.

    In Ezekiel’s time, however, there were Israelites who failed to appreciate God’s boundless love and mercy. They said: “The way of Jehovah is not adjusted right.” Yet, they were really the ones needing to adjust their thinking and ways.—Ezek. 33:17, 20.

    davy

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi David,
    I applaud the intent to warn and inform. I do doubt whether the efforts are that effective due to the techniques used which may even be counterproductive. I also do not believe it is the same message given by Christ that is preached.

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     david 
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    We have used radio and tv in the past, but the methods set out by Jesus are the best. We follow them.
    hmmm. What message exactly did Christ preach in your opinion? Did he stress the sactification of his fathers name? Did he talk to people about God's Kingdom? Did he tell people to repent, because the kingdom of God has drawn near? Did he comfort people with the good news that God's Kngdom will soon destroy those who oppress their fellowmen and that it will turn the earth into a paradise? Did he exalt his father as sovereign lord of the universe? Did he bear witness to the truth concerning religious hypocrisy, tradition, beliefs, etc?

    In your mind, what was the message that Christ preached and that his apostles and early disciples preached?

    If you don't believe the methods of preaching that we use is effective, you will have to take that up with Jesus and how he trained his early disciples.

    david.

    #8981
     Eliyah 
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    David asked,

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    In your mind, what was the message that Christ preached and that his apostles and early disciples preached?

    Now I pose that you will explain the elaborate doctrine of the JWs concerning the tree that was cut down and the bands that was put on the stump where the Gentile kingdoms of this world would rule for 1,260 years which the JWs claim ended in the year 1914, and Messiah came in secret and invisible and the Kingdom of Yah was set up ?

    Well, the fact is, that Gentile kingdoms are still ruling this world with their own governments, and the final decree that the Kingdom of Yah will be implimented at Messiah's literal coming at the LAST TRUMPET( Matt.24:31; 1 Thess.4:16; 1 Cor.15:52; Rev.11:15).

    In which the true Gospel of Yah's coming Kingdom was and is still to be preached( Matt.24:14), which includes the message of their true Names( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Acts 4:10-12; Rom.10:13), concerning salvation of man, and that the Promises were and are immortal Eternal life on this earth as was Promised to Abraham and all the faithful obedient( Heb.11), in which even they have not received those promises yet either( Heb.11:13, 39).

    #8986
     NickHassan 
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    Quote (david @ Sep. 30 2005,00:56)
    We have used radio and tv in the past, but the methods set out by Jesus are the best.  We follow them.
    hmmm.  What message exactly did Christ preach in your opinion?  Did he stress the sactification of his fathers name?  Did he talk to people about God's Kingdom?  Did he tell people to repent, because the kingdom of God has drawn near?  Did he comfort people with the good news that God's Kngdom will soon destroy those who oppress their fellowmen and that it will turn the earth into a paradise?  Did he exalt his father as sovereign lord of the universe?  Did he bear witness to the truth concerning religious hypocrisy, tradition, beliefs, etc?

    In your mind, what was the message that Christ preached and that his apostles and early disciples preached?

    If you don't believe the methods of preaching that we use is effective, you will have to take that up with Jesus and how he trained his early disciples.

    david.


    Hi david,
    Thank you fro the info. Perhaps it needs added the command that they be born again, and the Power of the Spirit of God at work amongst the preachers.

    #9006
     Eliyah 
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    Perhaps it needs added the command that they be born again, and the Power of the Spirit of God at work amongst the preachers.

    Let's see now, how long has traditional christianity been preaching its own message about a false person called je'sus, and how many religious denominations are there of this world in almost every country on the globe?

    There are literally thousands of denominations, lets see, there is the Baptist Denominations, then there is the Pentecostal unknown tongues Denominations, then there is the Methodist Denominations, then there is The Anglacan Denominations, then there is The Roman Catholic Denominations, and I could just keep going on and going on like the energizer bunny, and this entire computer does not have enough capacity to list them all.

    Why since 500 years ago, all the Denominations should have had another garden of eden parsdise on this earth, however, all there is, is murder, rape, theft, violence, sorcery of drugs, queers, which are modern Sodomites, and people murdering each other with anything and everything from baseball bats to steal toed boots in their own homes, and not to even mention all the wars.

    Then, there is people like Benny Hinn that stand in front of a camera and is on T.V., saying heal in the name of the lard , and people are falling over like a stiff stove poker on a stage in front of millions of other people, then the audience gets quiet for moment, then, Benny Hinn says praise you je'sus, glory to the lard, then he says that BAAL GOD is doing some mighty miracles among the people, and he is saying that millions are being saved today.”” UNQUOTE.

    OH REALLY NOW?

    Then, you can take your T.V. remote clicker and change channels on your T.V.set , then you can see Pat Robertson's Son sitting there imitating and mimiking his dad Pat Robertson and saying while he sits there with his eyes closed saying, “” there is some person out there who has suffered severe migraine head ac'es for years, and your being healed of that this right this minute praise the lard “”.

    OH REALLY NOW?

    Then you can keep clicking that remote control on your T.V. set, then you can come across so-called good old brudder Richard Roberts, sitting there mimiking his dad good ol brudder Oral Roberts, and the traditional cycle seems to go on and on like the energizer bunny over and over.

    Then there are those modern bold baal prophet Evangelists, that stand up there and as good as well says, “” Step away from your Bible, put your hands up, and give me all your money.”” , then people as much as goes right along with it.

    You don't want me to tell you about ALL those on the Radio and Internet too do ye?

    Then, ALL MIGHTY Yah says to all of these modern Baal Pastors, Priests and Ministers.

    Therefore thus saith YAHWEH the El of Israel I against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith YAHWEH.For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right.
    Thus saith YAHWEH of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of YAHWEH.

    They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

    Behold, a whirlwind of YAHWEH is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.

    The anger of YAHWEH shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.

    I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

    But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings “” UNQUOTE.

    Yea boys, is the Kingdom here now like Pat Robertson says it is, if it is, where is it, and are we living in a Paradise right now ?

    If you believe that, then I have some beach front property in New Orleans I want to talk about selling to you? I'm certain you would want to buy it right now, since there was a nice breeze blowing there about a month ago, which spoiled all the 200,000 thousand queers get together meeting there last month ? Oh, but I guess you didn't hear about the big queer party they were going to hold there last month did ye?

    #9079
     NickHassan 
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    Hi eliyah,
    Yes poking fun and pulling down others does seem to hold your interest. Have you built anything yet?

    #9085
     Eliyah 
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    Nick,

    I was not poking fun as you call it, that is the flat truth above and you damm well know it too.

    #9087
     NickHassan 
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    Hi eliyah,
    A more careful choice of words would help with the message you hope to impress us with.

    #9090
     Eliyah 
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    I was notoking fun, but stating the facts.

    As this Article appears in its entirety in headlines.

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    ACT OF GOD DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS DAYS BEFORE “SOUTHERN DECADENCE” 8/31/05
    PHILADELPHIA – Just days before “Southern Decadence”, an annual homosexual celebration attracting tens of thousands of people to the French Quarters section of New Orleans, an act of God destroys the city.

    “Southern Decadence” has a history of filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars. Last year, a local pastor sent video footage of sex acts being performed in front of police to the mayor, city council, and the media. City officials simply ignored the footage and continued to welcome and praise the weeklong celebration as being an “exciting event”. However, Hurricane Katrina has put an end to the annual celebration of sin.

    On the official “Southern Decadence” website (www.SouthernDecadence.com), it states that the annual event brought in “125,000 revelers” to New Orleans last year, increasing by thousands each year, and up from “over 50,000 revelers” in 1997. This year’s 34th annual “Southern Decadence” was set for Wednesday, August 31, 2005 through Monday, September 5, 2005, but due to massive flooding and the damage left by the hurricane, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco has ordered everyone to evacuate the city.

    The past three mayors of New Orleans, including Sidney Barthelomew, Marc H. Morial, and C. Ray Nagin, issued official proclamations welcoming visitors to “Southern Decadence”. Additionally, New Orleans City Council made other proclamations recognizing the annual homosexual celebration.

    “Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city,” stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. “From ‘Girls Gone Wild’ to ‘Southern Decadence’, New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. May it never be the same,” he continued.

    New Orleans is also known for its Mardi Gras parties where thousands of drunken men revel in the streets to exchange plastic jewelry for drunken women to expose their breasts. This annual event sparked the creation of the “Girls Gone Wild” video series.

    “Let us pray for those ravaged by this disaster. However, we must not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long,” Marcavage said. “May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God,” Marcavage concluded.

    Like I said,

    Yea boys, is the Kingdom here now like Pat Robertson says it is, if it is, where is it, and are we living in a Paradise right now ?

    If you believe that, then I have some beach front property in New Orleans I want to talk about selling to you? I'm certain you would want to buy it right now, since there was a nice breeze blowing there about a month ago, which spoiled all the 200,000 thousand queers get together meeting there last month ? Oh, but I guess you didn't hear about the big queer party they were going to hold there last month did ye?

    #9092
     NickHassan 
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    Hi eliyah,
    Are there any other people you hate you would like to tell us about so we can move on?

    #9094
     Eliyah 
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    Nick,

    I never said that I hated anyone, you word twisting pervert.

    #9097
     NickHassan 
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    Hi eliyah,
    You don't need to say you hate anyone. Your words say that for you.

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