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  • #319629
    Ed J
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    YHVH's Warning to America:

    Jonathan Cahn “the Harbinger ” Prophecy

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #319631
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Stuart,

    More unexplainable coincidences huh?
    “NO”, more proof of God's signature in this…

    Dow drops  “777”  points on bailout bust.   (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #319766
    Stu
    Participant

    Sorry Ed, haven't got time to watch 41 minutes of this moron.

    Perhaps you could summarise it for us. Start with “God must exist because…”.

    Stuart

    #319770
    Proclaimer
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    God must exist because if he didn't, you wouldn't exist.

    #319772
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2012,18:48)
    God must exist because if he didn't, you wouldn't exist.


    You are begging the question of the dependence of humans on gods.

    What was that about needing more intelligent atheists?

    How about having one theist who has a basic grasp of valid logic?

    Stuart

    #319865
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #319933
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,10:56)
    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Please show me the post where I say I want proof of a god's existence. I don't recall ever asking for that.

    Stuart

    #319939
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 12 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,10:56)
    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me the post where I say I want proof of a god's existence.  I don't recall ever asking for that.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I know for sure that you have said that;
    but finding it, well that is quite another story.

    I guess we can you word for it that you are not now
    interested in seeing the “Proof of God's existence” then; right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #320050
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 12 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,10:56)
    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me the post where I say I want proof of a god's existence.  I don't recall ever asking for that.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I know for sure that you have said that;
    but finding it, well that is quite another story.

    I guess we can you word for it that you are not now
    interested in seeing the “Proof of God's existence” then; right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If you can't find it then the gentlemanly thing to do is to retract the accusation. Are you familiar with anything I have actually posted, as opposed to what you reckon I have probably posted?

    And I didn't say I wasn't interested in “proof” of your god's existence. It would be an interesting exercise in human delusion but I don't respect that it is possible to prove the existence of anything.

    Stuart

    #320076
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    Sorry Ed, haven't got time to watch 41 minutes of this moron.

    We all know that you had a sneak preview. How else did you know it was 41 minutes.

    #320077
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Stu, are you saying that you have never asked anyone here for proof of God's existence?

    #320078
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 11 2012,22:04)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2012,18:48)
    God must exist because if he didn't, you wouldn't exist.


    You are begging the question of the dependence of humans on gods.

    What was that about needing more intelligent atheists?

    How about having one theist who has a basic grasp of valid logic?

    Stuart


    I will explain.

    If there is no eternal creator, and you agree that it is impossible for everything to originally come from nothing, then you have to explain how you got here. You are alive, and can create, yet somehow the original thing has none of these qualities.

    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe it is all just magic. No explanation needed.

    #320089
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:32)
    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe it is all just magic. No explanation needed.


    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe that God came about by just magic. No explanation needed.

    Tim

    #320092
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 13 2012,17:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 12 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,10:56)
    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me the post where I say I want proof of a god's existence.  I don't recall ever asking for that.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I know for sure that you have said that;
    but finding it, well that is quite another story.

    I guess we can you word for it that you are not now
    interested in seeing the “Proof of God's existence” then; right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If you can't find it then the gentlemanly thing to do is to retract the accusation.  Are you familiar with anything I have actually posted, as opposed to what you reckon I have probably posted?

    And I didn't say I wasn't interested in “proof” of your god's existence.  It would be an interesting exercise in human delusion but I don't respect that it is possible to prove the existence of anything.

    Stuart


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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2010,18:12)
    OK.  Read that.  Now, use it to “prove” to me your god exists.

    Stuart

    #320229
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:30)

    Quote
    Sorry Ed, haven't got time to watch 41 minutes of this moron.

    We all know that you had a sneak preview. How else did you know it was 41 minutes.


    I watched the first 5 seconds, saw the length and presenter and knew from past experience that it would be 41 minutes of moronic drivel. By all means post something meaningful produced by this clown that would disprove my claim that he is a moron.

    Stuart

    #320230
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:32)
    Stu, are you saying that you have never asked anyone here for proof of God's existence?


    Yes. It would have been a serious mistake on my part to have asked that question, and I would withdraw the question and apologise were there to be evidence I had.

    Stuart

    #320231
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:32)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 11 2012,22:04)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2012,18:48)
    God must exist because if he didn't, you wouldn't exist.


    You are begging the question of the dependence of humans on gods.

    What was that about needing more intelligent atheists?

    How about having one theist who has a basic grasp of valid logic?

    Stuart


    I will explain.

    If there is no eternal creator, and you agree that it is impossible for everything to originally come from nothing, then you have to explain how you got here. You are alive, and can create, yet somehow the original thing has none of these qualities.

    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe it is all just magic. No explanation needed.


    I have explained this already. Sorry if you can't accept reality.

    If you really wanted to know you would find out the answers for yourself.

    But all you are interested in is playing to the crowd.

    Stuart

    #320232
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,21:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 13 2012,17:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 12 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,10:56)
    Hi Stu,

    It's funny that you say you want to see the proof of God's existence,
    but you prove over and over again that you are unwilling to look at it.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Please show me the post where I say I want proof of a god's existence.  I don't recall ever asking for that.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I know for sure that you have said that;
    but finding it, well that is quite another story.

    I guess we can you word for it that you are not now
    interested in seeing the “Proof of God's existence” then; right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If you can't find it then the gentlemanly thing to do is to retract the accusation.  Are you familiar with anything I have actually posted, as opposed to what you reckon I have probably posted?

    And I didn't say I wasn't interested in “proof” of your god's existence.  It would be an interesting exercise in human delusion but I don't respect that it is possible to prove the existence of anything.

    Stuart


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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2010,18:12)
    OK.  Read that.  Now, use it to “prove” to me your god exists.

    Stuart


    Right. “Prove”. Not my word, but yours. If I was really asking you for proof, I would have written 'Prove your god exists'. But I was very careful not to ask you that.

    Stuart

    #320234
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 13 2012,21:11)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:32)
    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe it is all just magic. No explanation needed.


    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe that God came about by just magic. No explanation needed.

    Tim


    That still leaves the question of the original magic-doer.

    Thankfully, Genesis doesn't only use magic. For example, there are at least four different mechanisms for making humans:

    1. Gods breathing into dirt
    2. Gods doing witchcraft with ribs
    3. Sexual reproduction (Cain)
    4. Magic (Cain's wife)

    Stuart

    #320282
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 14 2012,00:11)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2012,20:32)
    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe it is all just magic. No explanation needed.


    See, now you can understand how foolish you look to some because you believe that God came about by just magic. No explanation needed.

    Tim


    Ahh but Tim, you are lacking because something has to be eternal in order for anything to exist. I say it is a consciousness, what do you say it is.

    I would really love to here what you say it is, so I want to challenge you to a debate on this very subject.

    The subject is, “How did the universe come to exist”.

    I will obviously argue that a creator did it and you will argue against a creator and support your view with other possible options.

    Is this a yes?
    Or no because you are not brave enough to debate in public this subject to the depth it deserves.

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