Son of God and son of man

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Of course the prophecy about the Son was also shown in Ps2, and quoted in Acts 13

    ”You are My Son. Today I have begotten you…..

    Now Therefore, O kings, show discernment; take a warning O judges of the earth…..

    Do homage to the Son, that he not become angry, and you perish in the way”

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jael,

    The breath of God gave us life.

    There is no scripture that says that the first Adam had the Spirit of eternal life.

     

    The breath of God is not the Spirit of God.

    #821179
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Jael,

    Adam could have eaten of the tree of life but was conned into eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    That knowledge took away our excuse of ignorance of what are good behaviours and what is of sin.

    Jesus condemned sin in the flesh and gave the power to overcome sin to his brothers.

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     Ed J 
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    Can anyone show me from Jewish customs or scriptures:

    1) Where a Son is supposedly equal to his Father

    Hi Jael,

    “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had
    broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father,
    making himself equal with God.” (John 5:18)

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    God bless
    Ed J

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    And why would they think that?

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….so are we equal with God, “know you not, that you (are now) sons of the living God”? The jews told jesus they have but onefather even God,did that make them equal with God? If JESUS was equal with God ,then why did he say “the Father is greater then him?

    Show us a scripture saying Jesus is equal to God.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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     t8 
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    No one is equal with God in total terms, but we can share his nature which is divine nature, like the son of God.Equal perhaps in the sense of having the same nature. While humans are not equal in ability, we are all equal in our nature. God is Jesus Father and the same God is or Father. And even us Believers can participate in this divine nature.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi ,

    The Spirit is given to those in the Son.

    The Spirit produces good fruit in those who let it happen.

    The nature of our loving God can be expressed in the Spirit He shares with us.

    Jesus was given the Spirit without measure and he allowed God to fully express His wisdom and powers

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    #822798
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Jn 15

    ‘..for apart from me you can do nothing.’

     

    Jesus said the same thing about his relationship with the Father.

    It is the Spirit of God that he and his brothers share that makes us one.

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….Right, we also who have the SPIRIT FROM GOD DWELLING IN US have the very same nature as the Father. But some will try to make JESUS OR BROTHER DIFFERENT THEN US, so they struggel to make his idenity with us different. Scripture says “God, the Father, works “IN” US “BOTH” TO “WILL” AND DO OF “HIS” GOOD PLEASURE”, just as he did in Jesus our lord, better our brother.

    Did not Jesus say to us, ” if you being evil know how to give good gifts, how much more will not your heavenly Father give his spirit to them that ask. Ask and you shall recieve, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you”.

    Now we know that spirit begets spirit, just as flesh begets flesh, so we are all of one flesh, even so God who is Spirit, PUTS HIS Spirit in us. The spirit is the intellect in a man, “for what knows a man except the spirit that is in him”, so think on whatsoever is of a good report, think on these things, resist D-EVIL spirits, and D-EVIL spirits WILL LEAVE YOU, SEEK THE GOOD OR GOD’S spirit, for spirit “begets” spirit. If a person seeks evil spirits it will beget its own kind, if they seek good spirit it will also beget its kind, this is the way we grow one way or the other, IMO. “MAKE THE TREE GOOD AND IT’S FRUIT GOOD, OR ELSE MAKE THE TREE CORRUPT AND IT’S FRUIT CORRUPT, FOR EVERY TREE IS KNOWN BY IT’S FRUIT. Remember a “tree” brings fruit from itself. ”

    For it is by our own words we will be justified, and by our words we shall be condemned”, we are told. Matt 12:33-37

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    You say

    “the spirit is the intellect in a man”

    Sounds like a strange new teaching.

     

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