Signs Before the End of the Age

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     david 
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    I am not suggesting ignoring suffering or saying everything is good so don’t expect anyone.  I’m saying: if the world is getting safer, more healthy, better fed, better medical care, and less violent, then we should acknowledge that.

    There is this belief among advocacy groups that you have to say everything is very bad ad getting worse.  They think this is the way to get money.  But when the situation seems hopeless people don’t want to help.  When people realize things are improving and helping out can actually make a difference they are more prone to help out.  Acknowledging reality is all I suggest.

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     t8 
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    david, I think most of these benefits are directly resulting from increased knowledge. However, I do not think the world of the Bible, the Middle East is getting better. At one point it was predominantly Christian or there was at least widespread influence. But since that time, Christians are nearly extinct and this is directly attributed to a religion that believes that Jesus is not the son of God and believes in cutting off the heads and crucifying Believers.  Overtime and through persecution and death, Christians went on the endangered list, while the religion of Islam now dominates. The seven Churches in Revelation for example are areas of the world dominated by Islam. Try to think of the tribulations that took place to result in this widespread death of the true faith. Also, take note that the world of the bible is the Middle East. We in the Western World tend to attribute the world to include us.

    Of course if you take the whole planet into account, then yes, knowledge such as medical and scientific knowledge have helped the quality of life immensely. Inventions give us much more comforts as well. Even an old car today that many7 would be embarrassed to drive, surpasses the chariots of the Roman emperors. But I think you need to understand that the world of the Bible is the Middle East. It is where the Beast and Israel are located. This is where prophecy is centred and it is where Jesus will return. The Great Tribulation is centred here too.

    #819072
     david 
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    I dot think it’s just knowledge that has made life better but also increased morality globally.  Look at the homicide rate globally.

    And as for the Middle East, I think you are comparing the Middle East (and we may as well throw Latin American countries in there too) to the rest of the world.  And not comparing Middle East today to Middle East in the past.

    Look at the bible account.  Genocide.  The Hebrew Scriptures is largely an account of genocides. Tribe after tribe being wiped out.  It wasn’t just the Israelites that were doing this.  Many think all war in the past was genocidal in nature.  Kill them all before they kill you.  Take the women or Virgins.  Kill the babies and men.  As horrible as you say it is today, we don’t see nation after nation of genoicde.  In the Middle East, some of the nations still practice stoning (judicial toeture).  That used to be what all the world did.  And even the Jews used to do this.  Now it’s just a few isolated parts of the Middle East rather than the whole Middle East and whole world.

    I know the idea of terrorism is scary.  It works and that’s why it’s used   A few deaths done the right way create terror in people   In the past, it was a real concern of people that their country be conquered   Before 1945, European countries started a new war twice a year on average for the 600 years before 1945   Two a year!   The world has constantly been trying to conquer other nations for all history  often genocidally   But now things are different for almost all of the world

     

     

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     t8 
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    The Bible is centred around the Middle East. And today, knowledge and technology can wipe out mankind. In the past, they fought with sticks and stones. Then spears and axes. Now an increasing number have nuclear bombs, microwave weapons, and the like. It’s the same mankind and all his imperfections coupled with advanced technology that makes the future worse because technology easily increases the scale. New Zealand, Canada, and Madagascar are not directly mentioned in scripture, but what is directly mentioned is Damascus, Jerusalem, Babylon etc.

    Further, I think you underestimate how bad it is there today. You go on about homicide rates, but I lived in a country with one of the highest rates in the world, and yet I am sure it was nothing compared with living under ISIS and Radical Islam. I mean really, david. How can you compare an extinction event with homicide. What percentage of Believers are dead because of homicide?  Not even 0.01% probably.

    Islam has caused tribulations for Believers and others such as Jews. Personally, I would prefer to be a Believer under the Roman Empire than an Islamic State or living in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Yes Believers have nearly always had it rough, but we live in a time when Believers are nearly extinct in the Middle East. The seven churches are now almost entirely Muslim. That was never the case in the times of the Roman Empire. To some degree the Roman Empire succumbed to Christians to appease them and to also create a harlot religion. But the Islamic Caliphates succeeded where Rome failed. They seriously culled Christians in that area of the world. Rome gave up that strategy because they were not getting anywhere. The history between Christians being all over the Middle East to almost non-existence is a history of death, persecution, and a great falling away. Footage of ISIS has given the modern world a view of what it is like to live as a Believer.

    Jesus was right when he said: “terrible times will come”. They have come and there maybe even worse times ahead. Jesus said those words while living under the reign of the Roman Empire and that kingdom was called a Beast. You can bet when he says terrible times will come, he meant times worse than the current day. And remember, he was not talking about Canada or Chicago. Nevertheless, you sound to me like you do not trust in Jesus words and prophecy to the degree that you even deny in your own mind the violence that must have taken place to nearly annihilate Christians from the world around the Great Sea.

     

    #819080
     t8 
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    What you need to realise David is there is a war against Christians. Those people that are dying, getting their heads cut off, the children who are being crushed to death are Christians. They are being killed in the name of a religion labels them infidels and commands that they are to be decapitated.

    I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.

    #819086
     david 
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    I understand that some from various religious groups are having their heads cut off.

    What im suggesting is, this has always been the case.  Judicial toeture has existed in almost all places through most of history and only recently fallen out of favour.

    During the Black Death, they went from village to village burning alive all the Jews.  They surely thought the world was ending. They didn’t u detests do why so many were dying so painfully.  That time also had a lot of war and famine in the century which weakened them and made them nice and read for the pestilence.   Back then, I u dersrand why almost everyone thought the world was ending.  Christians, flagulents, walked around naked whipping themselves, bleeding, trying to get god to change his punishments.  Blood spattered on the walls as they walked by naked.  Everyone was scarred out of their mind and thought the world was ending. 25-30% of the whole world was quickly exterminated.  Today is bad.  Just not that different.

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     david 
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    Extinction event?  There have been 5 mass extinctions so far.  The last one killed most dinosaurs and plants and animals.

    We may have a 6th mass extinction.  Or maybe we won’t.  But homicide is an actual thing that actually happens.  It’s not something that may happen.  When thinking of violence people often look at what we are capable of, and of course technology has made us more capable of large scale violence.  Yet, war deaths continue to fall.  And not rise.

    Im only concerned with what is.  Not with what might be:

    things are getting less violent but sure, as you say, they could get worse.  But until they do, we should keep saying what is true:  they are getting better and better globally.  They may get much worse.  But right now things are actually in fact not doing that.  I’m only focused on what is real.  Not on what might be.

    #819090
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    Yes, Christians are nearly extinct in the Middle East, where they once were widespread. Islam has had a huge impact in that part of the world. The culling of their numbers was not peaceful, but could be described as tribulation. The Middle East is predominantly Muslim. One of the tenets of their faith is God has no son. What does scripture call people that deny this truth? A Christian living under Sharia is like a sheep among wolves that are ready to tear the sheep apart.

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     t8 
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    @EdJ

    Hi T8,

    Can you please give more details as to what you were shown?
    Like what did the cars looked like. Also, what specifically was
    significant about the part of the future that you were shown.
    “Communicate” “with spirit” specifics are a interest of mine.

    Sorry, I just saw your question. I did mention these details in the opening post. However, I don’t mind mentioning them again.

    The cars I saw had a different shape than they do now. They weren’t the traditional shape of bonnet and boot, but one room on wheels. But not just square or rectangular either, rather with a futuristic style and shape that looked good. More filled out, little wasted room by the look of it. I only saw three cars close up. I couldn’t see wheels, but that is not to say they didn’t have any.  They glided or hovered passed me. Silent would be the word, but hearing the air rushing around them. While I had this vision back in the 1990s it is correct to say that cars seem to be evolving this way since. SUV’s look like an early prototype, but what I saw looked like years or decades after that.

    The aircraft I saw I described as futuristic helicopters that swarmed toward crowds of people shooting at them indiscriminately.  Twenty years later, I would say that drones today look like an early prototype.

    Scripture says that fear is one of the signs of the end times and that men shall go to and fro, and knowledge shall increase. Being shown this terror/fear and transport fits the theme of the end times for me. This was shown to me because I had questions for God and he answered me. I asked him when these things would come to pass because I wondered if there was time for me to have a family etc before the end. After these visions, the answer I saw was that the time was not that imminent as some reckoned, but was still some time off. Even perhaps outside of my lifetime. Maybe, maybe not. These things could exist in the next twenty years, but that is just me guessing.

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    ISIS Declares To Muslims To ‘Hunt Down, Terrorize, And Slaughter All The Christians Of Egypt’

    Christianity is under attack in Muslim nations in ways not seen for centuries. It is nothing short of a genocide as Islamic groups such as ISIS with complicit governments allow these people to commit heinous violence against the Christians without limit, and all the while the Muslims brag about it.

    In a recent story coming out of Egypt, ISIS has encouraged Muslims in a new video to commit genocide against the Christians, vowing to terrorize, hunt down, and destroy every last one of them:

    In a newly released 20-minute video, ISIS’ media wing in Egypt encouraged fellow jihadists to terrorize and kill Christians across the country.

    Around 10% of Egypt’s population identify as Christians and most adhere to the Coptic Orthodox branch of Christianity. The minority is frequently targeted by terror attacks from either ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood.

    http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2017/04/03/media-silence-isis-declares-to-muslims-in-new-video-to-hunt-down-terrorize-and-slaughter-all-the-christians-of-egypt.html

    #819105
     t8 
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    I wonder how many pray for their brothers and sisters who are going through tribulation? I know I need to pray more.

    so that there should be no division in the body, but that its members should have mutual concern for one another. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. Now you are the body of Christ, and each of you is a member of it.…

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     t8 
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    Piers Morgan Asks Why U.S. Media Won’t Cover Christian Genocide By Radical Muslims

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     t8 
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    “More Christians die and suffer for their faith than any other religious group in the world.”

    “The elite, including liberal media, not only ignore this fact but most often are the ones who treat Christians with mocking, stereotyping and disdain. It’s a rare sight to ever see Hollywood portray a Christian in a positive manner, much less talk about the plight of Christians in places like the Middle East.”

    I brought attention to this today in the House of Commons – Hon. Candice Bergen, MP

    #819693
     t8 
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    The Christian holocaust that the the MSM ignores

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    The Third Jihad

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