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Since Jesus reads in all hearts, it is because he is God and without sin and for this he has the power to forgive sins against God and against men. If Jesus had sinned, he would have lost that power, but the glory to God, Jesus conquered.
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
[11] I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.Gene
Jesus speak to you and all
with this old Christian song:
For you, I gave my lifeFor you, I gave my life,
For you, I have shed my blood;
Your soul, to Satan delighted,
Escape from his mighty arm.
The love that sacrifices itself,
Have you grasped it by faith?
For you, I gave my life:
Sinner, what have you done for me?2
For you, I left my Father
My throne in the high heavens,
The living room of light,
The joyful hallelujahs.
Poor, isolated on earth,
I, the great and mighty King,
For you, I left my Father:
What did you leave for me?3
For you, I took the suffering,
For you, I shed tears;
I have, in my immense love,
Drink your cup of pain;
My forgiveness, my deliverance,
My salvation everything is yours!
For you, I took the suffering:
What did you suffer for me?4
Do you want to give me your life?
Will you give me your heart
Give up your madness,
And having trouble winning?
Your happy and blessed soul
Will live of love and faith.
Do you want to give me your life?
Sinner, I died for you.Berean……what you fail to realize is that Jesus is a human work of God, a protype of what God has and had in mind for “all” humanity.
You drive a wedge between Jesus’ likeness of us, which is exactly what Satan wanted all along by his creation of the “Doctrine of the trinity” . In fact you as most christanity preach Jesus, more then you do the Father, who is the “only” true God “, according to what Jesus told us. But not according to you, who are you to deny Jesus’ own words. But not only Jesus’ words you deny, but even God the Fathers words, who said over and over there is “no” God besides him”. What did God the Father command us and Jesus, “you shall have “no other” God besides me”. and again ” i am the LORD your God and besides me there is no other God, You also reject the scripture that says this, ” but unto us there is “one” God, and “one” mediator between God and men, “the man” Jesus Christ.
Saying Jesus is 100% MAN and 100% God, is an “OXYMORON “. Jesus is and was 100% man, and when he returns he still will be 100% man, who has the Seven Spirits of God on him, just as the “slain lamb of God” in Revelatioins shows.
I realize you are unaware that you and other are commiting “IDOLATRY “, by creating the “image” of another God, of but none the less a “LIE” IS A LIE , none the less. 2ths2.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Berean……What I want to do, is give God the Father my life just like the Man Jesus my brother did. Jesus said, I alway do what pleases the Father “. We need to do the samething also. Your song is about Jesus, but Jesus song was about the Father, who you leave out of your song.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Gene,
You said: What I want to do, is give God the Father my life…
If this is what you want, Gene, you have to give Jesus your life, go through the gate which is Jesus to get to the Father. You need to take up your cross daily and follow Jesus. Recognize Jesus as your shepherd, THE SHEPHERD, not as a fellow sheep in the herd. He is the head of the body of believers, not a fellow member of the body of believers, TRUST IN JESUS TO LEAD YOU TO THE FATHER…YOU NEED BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON, NOT JUST THE FATHER.
Jesus is sufficient for leading the way, being the truth, giving the everlasting life. We only need one Jesus, Gene. You aren’t called to be another Jesus person. You are to be a follower of Jesus. Follow Jesus as he followed his leader, the Heavenly Father. Jesus will faithfully lead you into all truth. Trust Jesus, believe in Jesus, have faith in Jesus…Jesus is worthy of your unwavering focus and devotion.
YOU DON”T NEED TO BE ANOTHER JESUS, Gene (you couldn’t be another Jesus, nobody could). ONE JESUS IS and always will be SUFFICIENT! The work is finished…rest in Jesus’s work, trust in Jesus’s words, follow Jesus in all things. He showed us how to do that as he trusted in his Father and followed his Father’s lead and his Father’s will. By following Jesus we will be doing the Father’s will.
He who has the Son, has the life, he who does not have the Son, does not have the life!
1 John 5 11And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.…
If you are claiming Jesus as “a son of God” instead of “THE SON of God” you do not have the life mentioned in the verse above.
LU…..Going through a gate has nothing to do with giving your heart to the Gate, it is the point of intrerance, on the way, to something. That is acquired by God the Father, who brings us to JESUS, so that we follow him, and do the thing he does to honor and worship the Father in truth, Jesus was not redemming the world to “himself”, but the Father, who dwelt in him, was redemming the world to “himself”.
Jesus said clearly you can’t even come to him unless “the Father (God) draw you”. You people are all about Jesus, not about the Father, but Jesus was “all about the Father, not about himself.
Had you people “truly understood that”, you would be glorifying the “Father”, like JESUS did, and still does.
It is God the Father that is “in all and through all”, if you were the true children of God, then the Father, who was “in” Jesus would be in you also, by the Same Spirit that was in the man Jesus also. Then you would be the childern of God, by his Spirit dwelling in you. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
LU…..All true believer have power to forgive sin, or haven’t you ever read where if we see a person commit a sin we can pray for that person and his sin will be forgiven him. It in your bible, read it. Jesus even said we could do “greater works then he did”, that also in your bible, but you seem not willing to believe what Jesus said. If you did then you would have only “one” God, like Jesus did and does.
LU, ONE GOD WHO IS OVER All and through ALL. You would say what Jesus said, “that they might know you Father, the “ONLY” TRUE GOD.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene,
The Gospel is not only “all about the Father” but also about Jesus!
Read this verse:John 5:22 The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son,
23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.We ought to honor the Son just like we honor the Father! So, if you think that by honoring only the Father far above Jesus, you are doing what the Father wants, you are definitely INCORRECT! If you do that, you are in fact NOT HONORING the Father! You have to honor the Son as you honor the Father if you want to honor the Father. Honoring highly only the Father (and belittling Jesus, taking Him as a mere man like yourself) means you are NOT honoring the Father. If you do not honor the Father, you canNOT expect to meet Him.
If we don’t honour the Son we don’t honour the Father. If we do not believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, then we are antichrist.
The point is, you honor Jesus more then you do the Father, who is the only “true” God, according to Jesus that is. We honor and bend our knee to Jesus “to the glory of the Father”, who placed “our” brother Jesus as our head. You people honor Jesus to the exclusion of the Father, hardly ever mentioning the Father, this Jesus never did, his whole Gospel was about the work of God the Father, your whole gospel is about the man Jesus, even turning the “image” of him into a God. You on the other hand can’t find “one” scripture where Jesus ever said he was God, but you preach him as such, that is a dishonor, to who Jesus said was , “the “only” true God”. So you rob God the Father and pay Jesus, something Jesus never did. Your religion is “all” about Jesus, hardly nothing about the Father, who Jesus preached all the time, he glorified the Father continously on the earth, and the Father has now glorified him.
This is exactly what you people do, 2ths2, go read it and think, have you changed a man into the “image” of a GOD? Jesus is the “only” man to have ever taken his seat in the “true” timple of God. A man you display and worship as a God.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Togel……I do not dishonor Jesus, I give him the honor and Glory the Father has given him, as our brother in the family of God. I do not dishonor God the Father, by saying he is not the “only” true GOD, but you people do dishonor God the Father by making Jesus out to be a GOD, something Jesus never did. Jesus said this, “the Father is greater then I am”, he always showed the Father as greater then him, but you people make Jesus equal to the Father, something Jesus never did. But that is what “idolatry” is, it’s making another God right?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
T8…..what makes you think I dishonor the Son Jesus, by saying he is not a God? Don’t you say the same thing?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Gene
[6] And again, when he(GOD) bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
[7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
[8] But unto the Son he(God) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
[9] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore O God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
[10] And, Thou, Lord(Jesus), in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
[11] They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
[12] And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.Hi t8, and Togel,
YOU: If we don’t honour the Son we don’t honour the Father
Perfect!
Allow me to be more precise
for those who are
CARNALLY MINDED!
WITH THE HOPE THAT THEY SEE THE LIGHT!
NO ONE CAN HONOUR THE SON MORE THAN THE FATHER!
THAT IS A HERESY.
AS YOU WELL SAID:
WHO HONOURS THE SON HONOURS THE FATHER,.
THUS THE MORE YOU HONOUR THE SON
THE MORE YOU HONOUR THE FATHER
JESUS THE SON DIED BUT ALSO
THE FATHER DIED
SINCE THE FATHER AND THE SON
ARE ONE
THE FACT THAT THE FATHER OUT OF HIS SUBSTANCE FURNISHED JESUS WITH HIS FLESH
INSTANTLY AFTER HE CAME OUT FROM MARY
EMBODIED AS THE LIGHT of the world.
AS MUCH AS GOD TOOK EVE OUT OF ADAM IN THE BONE SPIRIT, AND
GOD BUILT EVE’S BODY OUTSIDE OF ADAM!
Genesis 2:23And Adam said:
This now is bone(SPIRIT) of my bones, and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called woman, because
she was taken out of man.
ALSO LIT
AS MUCH AS ADAM WAS ALSO LIT ONCE HE RECEIVED
THE HOLY GHOST from the Father’s breath
Thus both in the image and likeness of God
LIGHT FROM LIGHT in the same way
THE SON CAME OUT OF THE FATHER BEFORE THE WORLD WAS!
AS SOON AS
GOD IN THE HOLY GHOST, THE VOICE OF GOD PRONOUNCED
“THE WORD” Jesus the Son of Man to be
LET THERE BE LIGHT!
PRIMORDIAL LIGHT OUT OF PRIMORDIAL LIGHT!
NOW FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL BLIND HERE IS CLEAR SCRIPTURE IN PLAIN ENGLISH:
John5:23 That all men
may honour the Son,
AS (as clear as crystal: in the same way)
they honour the Father.
He who honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father who hath sent him.
now attention PLEASE:
as those who do not
HONOUR THE SON IN FULL ( AS GOD)
DO NOT LIKEWISE HONOUR THE FATHER IN FULL!( AS GOD)
John 17:10 And all my things are thine,
and thine are mine: (THIS IS THE BIG ONE:)
and I (JESUS CHRIST) am glorified in them.
TILL THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD!
Matthew 11:27 All things (INCLUDING THE TITLE OF GOD)
are delivered to me by my Father.
And no one knoweth the Son but the Father:
neither doth anyone know the Father, but the Son,
and he to whom it shall please the Son to reveal him.
IN HIS EMBODIMENT
JESUS CHRIST
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hi Berean,
YOU: But that ye may know that
the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,
(he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
[11] I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.THE POWER ON EARTH TO FORGIVE SINS IT SIMPLY MEANS
THAT JESUS FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME
GAVE ORDERS TO SATAN TO COME OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR MAN/SOUL, AND INSTANTLY
HE WOULD BE HEALED
This is also well manifested in
Luke 13:16 And ought not this daughter of Abraham,
whom Satan hath bound,
lo, these eighteen years,
be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Carmel
Good remark[14] Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
[15] And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.(Hebrews 2)God bless you
Gene
[Heb 1:6] And again, when he(GOD) bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Good verse Berean. Clearly Christ has/is Deity, as Chist is God’s only-begotten son!
Gene,
Jesus said: that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father.
We are to honor the Son, JUST AS WE HONOR THE FATHER. How do we honor the Father? We honor the Father as God.
That means, we also are to honor Jesus as God, because we are to honor Jesus as we honor the Father. Not less!Jesus also said:
Joh 8:50 Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it, and he is the judge.
The Father seeks that Jesus has the Glory… and He will be the judge for whoever do not honor Jesus as He should be honored, i.e.
as the Father is honored.
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