PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Gene,

    Why are you suggesting Christ should have done miracles before he was anointed “King” ?

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    Ed J

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Your  theory about separate anointings remains yours alone.

    Unless you can find some real evidence.

     

    It is hard to let go of your own ideas.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….Show us a scripture that says he was anointed twice then. Jesus was the prophesied messiah to come anointed like Moses was, according to Moses. But he like Moses, he was not that messiah untill he was baptized and recieved the Spirit from the Father above, and then he was sent out into the world, by that same spirit to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God with miracles and power from on high.

    Where did you ever get the idea Jesus was a messiah before he was anoint as such. Do believe if a child is born to be a king, he is a king at berth?, Sounds like some of T8’s thinking if you ask me.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Gene,

    Kings are born as Prince, not as King

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    Ed J

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Gene,

    Are you not aware that Priests are born ???
    The sons of Zadok were born as Priests

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    Ed J

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….No priest is a priest untill he takes that office as such, just as a king is not a king untill he actually takes that office even though he was born to be a king. I am not saying that was not their destiny.

    Please answer my question where is there any scripture that says, The man Jesus was anointed as a messiah twice? IF JESUS WERE ALREADY ANOINTED AT BERTH, THEN WHY DO IT AGAIN? Your reasoning seems to be from an idea that Jesus preexist as God or something before he he was born on this earth.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    But you are not suggesting that the sons of Zadok did not need to be anointed because of their lineage are you?

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    It is the priests that anoint the King

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    Ed J

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    And all priests are taken from among men, then anointed and appointed.

     

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj… changing subject matter, simply show us where Jesus was anointed twice, in scripture, or you simply have no proof, just supositions of your thinking, while Jesus was certainly blessed and kept by God from berth, he was not anointed by God as the Messiah umtill it actually happened. God can bless and keep us, as the prayer says, but even though GOD does that, it dosent mean the person has been anointed by his spirit does it? Paul said he was chosen at his berth, but he was not anointed till he was baptized and anointed later in his life even though that was his destiny. Same applies to us also right?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Kept by his true Father and brought up with firm discipline.

    Perfectly subject to the Law He was made clean by the washing of the Word.

    Heb 12.1-9

    #821224
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….Yes i believe Jesus was displind by the laws of God, and his human parents. But even like us he still lacked the ability to direct his steps, “for it is not within a man to direct his stepts”, untill he and we recieved the spirit of God, when God the Father puts his laws in his inward parts, as he does us also. Exactly what had to happen to Jesus has to happen to us also. We are brothers and sisters of him, in the family of God “our” Father. Jesus is the “first born son” in the family, and has that position for ever.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Ed,

    And all priests are taken from among men, then anointed and appointed.

    Hi Nick,

    Are you suggesting Jesus was not appointed from his inception?

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    Ed J

    #821227
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Did you confuse preordaining with anointing and appointing?

    #821228
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    You say INCEPTION.

    Do you mean CONCEPTION?

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