PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence

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  • #821056
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    ???

    Focus

    #821057
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Prophets too were anointed and Jesus Christ is the Great Prophet spoken of by Moses.

    So CHRIST means the messiah or anointed one.

    It does not specify rulership.

    #821058
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    If you want to live in denial, that is your choice

    muslims call Jesus the messiah, but deny his Messiahship

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821059
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    What is your problem?

    The messiah was born in Bethlehem.

    He was anointed at about age 30 at the Jordan River.

    #821060
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Tradition tells you that the Jordan was not his anointing.

     

    As a faithful Jew he submitted to the baptism of John.(Lk 7.29-30)

    Then he was filled with the Spirit.(lk4.1)

    #821061
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    To fit with the teaching that Jesus was a preexistent Spiritual being

    tradition

    has to deny that Jesus was conceived in Mary, born under the Law

    deny that he was a ordinary man like you and me

    and deny his anointing at the Jordan.

     

    full house

     

    #821062
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    All this confusion because folks do not realise The Spirit spoke through the man Jesus Christ.

    Like the pharisees they attribute the words just to a man.

    #821077
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Which dictionary gave you the definition of

    Christ

    as ANOINTED RULER?

    #821144
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    I merely pointed out that biblical leaders were all anointed.
    So rather than a Priest anointing Jesus, God anointed him.

    He was anointed as LEADER at Jordan,
    but Jesus was born as the Christ,
    he was a priest from birth.

    Remember he went into the temple to Teach at the tender age of 12

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821146
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Thank you for your opinion.

    #821155
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Why do you try to fly these silly kites?

    All in defence of your dogmas?

     

    The High Priest is taken from among men, not embryos.

    #821156
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    The bible clearly tells us Jesus was born Christ.
    Why do you dispute the very words in the bible?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821157
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….Jesus was not born a messiah, he became one when he recieved the spirit of God, no messiah could be a preexisting being. Ask any Jew and they will tell you a messiah has to be a human being who was anointed with the spirit of God, just as Moses was. John saw the spirit decend on him like a dove after he was baptized. NOW IF HE WAS ALREADY THE CHRISTO’S AS YOU ASSUME, THEN WHY DID HE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN TO RECIEVE IT. NO SCRIPTURE SHOWS ANY MIRACLES OR TESTING OR KINGDOM OF GOD (GOSPEL) TEACHING TILL AFTER HIS BAPTIZM. THAT IS WHEN HE WAS SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD, NOT BEFORE.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #821158
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    When folks refuse to accept the prophetic nature of the written Word what can we  do to help them?

    #821160
     Ed J 
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    Hi Ed,

    When folks refuse to accept the prophetic nature of the written Word what can we do to help them?

    Hi Nick,

    Show them fulfilled prophecies: like the 70 weeks of Daniel, Or the
    1,260 day/years that Israel fled from the abomination of desolation.

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    God bless
    Ed J

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