Preexistence

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  • #281509
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Try 2 cor 5.19

    #281512
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 29 2012,04:21)
    T8………..Yes He did “EXIST” in the FORM of GOD while he was ON THIS EARTH, for in him dwelt the fullness of GOD Why would he not then be in the Form or IMAGE of the Living GOD


    Gene.

    We are made in the image of God and we are man.

    Unlike us, Christ existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and partook of flesh.

    Let's not pretend. We both know you do not believe this.

    Your view is he existed in the form of man, humbled himself….
    So as you can see, the difference between our views is that I believe that he existed in the form of God, emptied himself, became a man.

    Again, let's not pretend aye!

    #281514
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Yes t8,
    And we differ in that I believe what is spoken of CHRIST Jesus applies to his ANOINTING with the WORD

    #281519
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Not following what you mean Nick.

    #281520
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,
    The Word[the Spirit of Christ] was with God and of course was God[of God's Spirit] in the beginning.
    Jesus became one with the Word in the Spirit anointing at the Jordan
    They are forever one and that is our hope too.

    #281528
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I don't disagree with your first line.

    Not sure what you are saying in the second though.

    That Jesus was flesh and the Word (Spirit of Christ) entered the body at Jordan to be forever united?

    #281530
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.

    #281531
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,14:23)
    Hi T,
    Try 2 cor 5.19


    N

    2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

    do you really want to make me believe that Paul says that God is in Christ ?????

    English is not my mom language but I know that ,that is not what Paul is saying ,

    so come back when you understand it

    #281532
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You are the one who seems to be struggling so check it out.

    #281534
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,16:02)
    Hi T,
    You are the one who seems to be struggling so check it out.


    N

    :D :D :D :D :p false witness ????

    #281535
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Constantly judging those you do not understand?
    Wake up

    #281545
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)
    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.


    I think we are all on the same page here.

    Acts 2:36
    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

    What exactly is it that I disagree with?

    #281546
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 29 2012,16:40)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)
    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.


    I think we are all on the same page here.

    Acts 2:36
    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

    What exactly is it that I disagree with?


    t8

    many are called few are elected

    #281547
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 29 2012,09:40)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)
    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.


    I think we are all on the same page here.

    Acts 2:36
    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

    What exactly is it that I disagree with?


    Hi t8,
    Good verse.

    Jesus MADE Lord and Christ
    I say the anointing was by the Spirit of Christ and God.

    Maybe nothing to disagree on.

    #281551
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,04:02)
    Hi G,
    Jesus was not the God that was in him.


    Nick………..I totally agree with that and have stated that many times Brother. Jesus is not and was not the God that indwelt Him we are both in agreement on that Nick. God was (IN) Christ Jesus reconciling the World unto him and God being (IN) someone does not make that someone GOD.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene

    #281552
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,16:47)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 29 2012,09:40)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)
    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.


    I think we are all on the same page here.

    Acts 2:36
    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

    What exactly is it that I disagree with?


    Hi t8,
    Good verse.

    Jesus MADE Lord and Christ
    I say the anointing was by the Spirit of Christ and God.

    Maybe nothing to disagree on.


    The angel in Luke 2 says Jesus was born both Lord and Christ.

    #281553
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To All……….the key is to understand what Spirit really is, it is simply put (intellect) God is Spirit and can by virtue of being Spirit Pour himself into a person he was poured (anointed) into Jesus and therefore God was Present where Jesus went GOD was there , But that never made Jesus the GOD that was (IN) HIM. Therefore Thomas said my Lord “AND” my GOD He did not mean Jesus was GOD but GOD was Present (IN) Jesus. Thomas finely got what Jesus was telling him all along God was IN Him.

    peace and love to you all……………………………………………..gene

    #281554
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 29 2012,10:09)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,16:47)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 29 2012,09:40)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)
    Hi T8,
    Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.[1Cor6, eph5]

    I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.

    His Spirit binds to us as it does to him.


    I think we are all on the same page here.

    Acts 2:36
    “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

    What exactly is it that I disagree with?


    Hi t8,
    Good verse.

    Jesus MADE Lord and Christ
    I say the anointing was by the Spirit of Christ and God.

    Maybe nothing to disagree on.


    The angel in Luke 2 says Jesus was born both Lord and Christ.


    Mike…………..Jesus was and is Both Lord and the Anointed one the (CHRISTOS). But none of that makes him preexist his berth on this earth.

    peace and love……………………………………………gene

    #281561
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 29 2012,17:10)
    To All……….the key is to understand what Spirit really is, it is simply put (intellect) God is Spirit and can by virtue of being Spirit Pour himself into a person he was poured (anointed) into Jesus and therefore God was Present where Jesus went GOD was there , But that never made Jesus the GOD that was (IN) HIM. Therefore Thomas said my Lord “AND” my GOD He did not mean Jesus was GOD but GOD was Present (IN) Jesus. Thomas finely got what Jesus was telling him all along God was IN Him.

    peace and love to you all……………………………………………..gene


    Gene

    To All……….the key is to understand what Spirit really is, it is simply put IN MY OWN WORDS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT BETTER) (intellect) God is Spirit (SO NOT AN SPIRIT BEING) and can by virtue of being Spirit Pour himself into a person he was poured (LIKE WATER OR WHAT EVER SPIRIT HIS)(anointed) into Jesus and therefore God (HIS NOW IN CHRIST AND SHARE HIS BODY SO HE CAN DO ALL THE THINGS HE AS WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES)was Present where Jesus went GOD was there(IT IS LIKE TRAVELING IN DUO) , But that never made Jesus the GOD that was (IN) HIM.(THIS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEING TOGETHER THEY ARE IN REALITY APART OF EACH OTHER,BUT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ,YOU JUST CAN PRAY AND HOPE THAT IN TIME EVERLASTING YOU CAN SEE IT THE WAY I WANT YOU TO SEE IT)

    THIS GENE IS WHAT YOU REALLY SAYING IF NOT SHOW SCRIPTURES ,

    all corrections are in capital letters

    #281565
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Good one, Pierre. :)

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