April 23, 2018 at 5:52 pm #822523
Who dares oppose this?
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
Nick, Gene, who else?April 24, 2018 at 8:15 am #822555
You confuse Flesh with Spirit.
The Word was with God and was God.
We no longer speak of Christ according to the flesh.
Flesh contributes nothing. Jn 6April 24, 2018 at 9:02 am #822558
For some odd reason you think that those who find your weak logic and reason based
interpretations of the prophetic and spiritual word of God lacking,
are in opposition to the truth.
Why is this?April 25, 2018 at 8:20 am #822621
It is your vain belief in preexistence that causes you to deny the anointing of the man, Jesus, at the Jordan.
In essence you seem to deny the power and abilities of God’s Spirit.
Do not take pride in your stubbornness.
You too can be changed.April 25, 2018 at 9:06 am #822624
The idea of souls preexisting comes from Plato and was fostered by Origen.
Your belief seems to be that only the man Jesus preexisted and not all men.
But this is a misunderstanding based on failure to grasp the prophetic word.
And the failure to appreciate the work of the eternal anointing Spirit in him.
And rejection of this anointing which the bible shows as being at the Jordan.April 25, 2018 at 9:24 am #822625GeneBalthropParticipant
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T8….Please listen, NICK is right on this, Jesus did not exist before his berth on this earth, even though he was prophecied to come into existence at the apointed time, by the prophets who were moved by the Spirit of God.
You are not standing on ferm ground T8, and slugging down the work of God on this site. I know you don’t want to but you are brother, IMO.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….geneApril 25, 2018 at 10:17 am #822627
….Thus declares the Lord, Who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth,
and forms the spirit of man within him.
Do you agree this applies to all men?April 25, 2018 at 10:21 am #822628
Do you think that being AS GODS is the same as BEING GODS?May 30, 2018 at 9:26 pm #829811
For some odd reason you think that those who find your weak logic and reason based interpretations of the prophetic and spiritual word of God lacking, are in opposition to the truth. Why is this?
Because you teach the opposite of:
May 30, 2018 at 9:34 pm #829812
- To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
- He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
- Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
- In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things,
and through whom he made the universe.
So who was before all ages? Who did creation come through?
Was it a man, the son of Mary, or a spirit being?
Or is there another possibility?May 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm #829813
If he is a man was Adam not the first man?June 4, 2018 at 5:36 am #830062JodiParticipant
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Without the work of God’s Spirit in Jesus, Jesus would have never been perfected. TRUE or FALSE?
Without that perfection we would still be in our sins, and thus there would be no hope of eternal life. TRUE or FALSE?
If there is no hope in eternal life all that are dead are not sleeping but are dead forever, and those that are alive there fate as well is death. This makes a future of nothing but death.
But God PLANNED for a future of life from the beginning, and all things consist in that life, and all things that God made was for the purpose of life for evermore. TRUE or FALSE?
The way to eternal life is through the man who shed his blood. TRUE or FALSE?
God is life, His Spirit brings righteousness to man, and thus man is also deserving of life. TRUE or FALSE?
God promised David of his seed God would unto his seed His Spirit, and appoint him an eternal king. TRUE or FALSE?
Jesus was MADE into a savior on earth through the Spirit that causes righteousness. TRUE or FALSE?
t8, do you think that our heavenly Father would have made the world without His plan that consisted of a seed from David being made into a savior?
All things were not made by a pre-existing son, all things to do not consist through a pre-existing son, ALL things consist according to the LIFE that a perfect human son brought through the shedding of his blood.
You are trying to say that the world was made by a pre-existing son, but the scripture is telling us that God made the world THROUGH a man that would COME and shed his blood and bring LIFE.
You even have this stated in the passage, and you cannot see this truth.
who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.June 19, 2018 at 12:31 am #831101
Jodi, he emptied himself and came in the flesh. Yes lots of work was done in him like us. We all learn obedience through suffering, even the one born the messiah.
He is now in the glory he had with the Father, before there was even a cosmos.
Amen.June 20, 2018 at 11:14 am #831202GeneBalthropParticipant
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T8….That glory was a predestined glory that was to come to him, he never had that glory until he was resurected from the grave. We also have honor, and glory already aforded us, but we as Jesus was are looking forward for it, we do not have it now, right?
Peace and love to you and yours. …..geneJuly 1, 2018 at 2:46 pm #831666
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Jer 1.5
You know that does not mean that Jeremiah preexisted.
Neither did the firstborn conceived of Mary preexist..
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