Matthew 13:47-50

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  • #801256
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    And this worldly input has some spiritual relevance?

    #801258
     t8 
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    Nick without going into the original language we are told that Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire. Thus the holding place for the dead cannot destroy the soul, but the Second Death is likely where this happens. The wicked will suffer the Second Death.

    Unless you think the reverse, the soul is killed first and then resurrected to suffer being alive in the Second Death. To me that option is one big oxymoron.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Death and Hades according to the nasb are emptied and thrown into the lake of fire.

    So the body has died but the souls remain in the waiting places.

    The second death awaits those not found in the book of life at the final judgement

    Salvation of our souls is the plan of God

     

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     t8 
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    Hi T8,

    You seem to express opinions rather than show truth.

    So this is my opinion? lol:

    Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    This is scripture Nick, not my opinion. I didn’t write it.

    So where does destruction of the wicked take place? Hades or the lake of fire?

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     t8 
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    Hi t8,
    Death and Hades according to the nasb are emptied and thrown into the lake of fire.
    So the body has died but the souls remain in the waiting places.
    The second death awaits those not found in the book of life at the final judgement
    Salvation of our souls is the plan of God

    Your view from what I can gather is the dead are not awake, and when they are judged and placed into the Lake of Fire they are awake/alive for all eternity. I think the opposite. Destruction happens at the Second Death. In Hades there is punishment for the wicked.

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    Hi T8,

    Lk16 seems to indicate souls after death are aware but we do not know detail.

    No indication in scripture how long souls remain aware in the lake of fire.

     

    Hades only exists till the judgement.

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     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    If our wise then you can figure out why writers chose to use the words they did.

    #801295
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Why not let scripture teach?

    #801296
     NickHassan 
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    hi KW,

    Scripture is the wisdom of God.

    men imagine they are wise

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     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    I do but you would rather hear a multitude of words without understanding than a few with. The wise seek understanding.

    #801302
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Where do the wise find it?

    Not much out there in the world.

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     t8 
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    Hi T8,
    Lk16 seems to indicate souls after death are aware but we do not know detail.
    No indication in scripture how long souls remain aware in the lake of fire.
    Hades only exists till the judgement.

    Exactly, so the Judgement is the final judgement. And we are clearly taught about the destruction of the wicked, the earth, and the heavens followed by the glorious promise of all things being new, no sin, and no crying. God is awesome.

    #801324
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    The Spirit guides and leads if we let it.

    #801327
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Yes.

    If you are born of that Spirit.

    And if you submit to the leading of the Spirit.

    #801334
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    The Spirit draws you to Jesus in order to be taught so there is at least guidance beforehand. It is stronger after you are born of the Spirit.

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