Mark 7:13

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     terraricca 
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    Nick

    To teach that the holy Spirit spoke through Jesus Christ is to be labelled a false teacher and worse?
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    the holy spirit of truth was in Jesus the Christ for it says ;Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

    it also says this ;Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known.

    do you believe that Jesus was at the side of God his father ?

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     terraricca 
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    Nick

    Ac 15:19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.
    Ac 15:20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

    it does not say that the gentiles have to be water baptized ;if it was that important I am sure they would have included in the letter ,

    I agree for Jews it is most important

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    Tradition says that Jesus was not like us.

    He became like us in all things except sin.

    Did you become like us too?

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     kerwin 
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    @t8,

    Did you consider the question you asked Nick?

    If you examine your words then you will see that you are thinking within a self-made box.

    I am like us but I have not always been like us because I have not existed forever. It therefore follows that at one time I was made in the likeness of a human being and so became like us.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    I presume you refer to Heb 4.15

    Which version says that he BECAME LIKE US?

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8……scripture say Jesus was made a little lower then the angels, it also says he made mankind a little lower then the angels also, and JESUS was made this way for the tasting of death, just as we also taste death. scripture shows JESUS WAS BORN AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING AND EXPERIENCED THE SAME THINGS WE DO. THE QUESTION HERE SHOULD BE, WHY ARE YOU SO INTENT TO MAKE HIM APPEAR SO DIFFERENT THEN WE ARE?

    DOYOU DENY WHAT GOD THE FATHER IN HIS HUMAN CREATION, TO TAKE AN ORDINARY HUMANBEING AND PERFECT HIM AND RAISE HIM FROM THE GRAVE AND GIVE THIS ORDINARY HUMAN BEING ETERNAL LIFE?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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     t8 
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    Did you consider the question you asked Nick?

    Yes. The ordinary Jesus Brigade believes that Jesus is an ordinary man.

    The truth is he was ordinary only in appearance. Look deeper for the truth. The truth is deeper than skin deep.

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     t8 
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    Which version says that he BECAME LIKE US?

    He came in the flesh Nick which is what kind of body we have. So he became like us. Now he is glorified and we can be like him with a body like his.

    He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of God in the glory he had with him before the cosmos.

    Amen.

     

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     t8 
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    DOYOU DENY WHAT GOD THE FATHER IN HIS HUMAN CREATION, TO TAKE AN ORDINARY HUMANBEING AND PERFECT HIM AND RAISE HIM FROM THE GRAVE AND GIVE THIS ORDINARY HUMAN BEING ETERNAL LIFE?

    An ordinary human being is a sinful being.

    In actual fact he came as the second Adam. Once the first Adam had no sin, but Jesus came not as that Adam.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    So he does the teaching of James about sin in his first chapter fit with your broad brush approach?

    Does James agree that all men are born sinners?

    #817086
     t8 
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    Do not have the time to check out what you are saying or insinuating here.

    But the short answer is all in Adam die for a reason. We are born of Adam, but require the new birth under the last Adam. Further, we are taught why men die. It is because of sin.

    Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

    You may have read this in the Bible.

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     t8 
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    Does this Jesus you preach come as a sinner that needed saving from God?

    Who died for him? An angel?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Jesus was not a sinner who need saving.

    He walked in the light of scripture and became an overcomer.

    #817120
     t8 
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    But you clearly teach that he is merely a man like us.

    Truth is, he came in the flesh to become one of us, so we could become one of him.

    Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….where do you get this idea that we are “MERE” MEN FROM, SCRIPTURE SAY WE ARE JUST A “LITTLE’ below abgels, but are CROWNED WITH”GLORY’ AND HONOR, AND “ALL” THING ARE TO BE PUT BELOW MANKINDS FEET” HEB 2:6-18, you need to make a complete study of those scriptures and then mabe you can come to see what God purpose for mankind really is. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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