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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick……A LAW is a enforced statue, it always includes enforcement, where there is no enforcement there is (NO) LAW. It just a statute. Notice where is say for where there is (NO) law there is no transgression (of IT). You can't transgress a Law when there is NONE. GOD'S commandments were turned into (LAW) forced compliance at Mount Sinai. A law is (NOT) a Commandment a commandment becomes a LAW when force is applied to it.

    gene

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     terraricca 
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    hi
    why the Israelits where punish so that they will not enter the sabath of God ?if there is no law ,no punnishment????:cool:

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     kerwin 
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,01:58)
    hi
    why the Israelits where punish so that they will not enter the sabath of God ?if there is no law ,no punnishment????:cool:


    If you walk according to the ways of the Spirit then there is not law banning your actions but if you walk according to the ways of the flesh there is a law and you will be judged according to it.

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     terraricca 
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    hi kerwin
    that is not the answer.

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     kerwin 
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,14:15)
    hi kerwin
    that is not the answer.


    It is the answer that Paul gave in his letter to the Galatians. Galatians 5:16-26 to be exact. In other words there is no law against obedience to God's commands. It is not Paul's fault that people do not want to understand what he was stating as it is self evident.

    #162333
     GeneBalthrop 
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    To All…….”whosoever is (UNDER) the works of the Law is under a (CURSE)” and again the LAW is for the sinner and the UNGODLY”. If your heart has been changed (BY) GOD , you are (NOT) UNDER ANY LAW. YOU HAVE (BECOME) and (FULFILL) the Commandments in your (NEW HEART), YOU are born from above, the (WORKS) of LAW has been replaced by the (WORKS) of the HOLY SPIRIT> The commandments can only truly be kept by the SPIRIT of GOD in US> so simple. IMO

    peace and love to you all…………………..gene

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2009,21:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,01:58)
    hi
    why the Israelits where punish so that they will not enter the sabath of God ?if there is no law ,no punnishment????:cool:


    If you walk according to the ways of the Spirit then there is not law banning your actions but if you walk according to the ways of the flesh there is a law and you will be judged according to it.


    Yup!

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 05 2009,00:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,14:15)
    hi kerwin
    that is not the answer.


    It is the answer that Paul gave in his letter to the Galatians.  Galatians 5:16-26 to be exact.  In other words there is no law against obedience to God's commands.  It is not Paul's fault that people do not want to understand what he was stating as it is self evident.


    Yup!

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    Quote (Gene @ Dec. 05 2009,08:52)
    To All…….”whosoever is (UNDER) the works of the Law is under a (CURSE)” and again the LAW is for the sinner and the UNGODLY”. If your heart has been changed (BY) GOD , you are (NOT) UNDER ANY LAW. YOU HAVE (BECOME) and (FULFILL) the Commandments in your (NEW HEART), YOU are born from above, the (WORKS) of LAW has been replaced by the (WORKS) of the HOLY SPIRIT> The commandments can only truly be kept by the SPIRIT of GOD in US> so simple.  IMO

    peace and love to you all…………………..gene


    Yup!

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,00:15)
    hi kerwin
    that is not the answer.


    I disagree!

    #162349
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    Matthew 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    Matthew 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?

    Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

    John 7:49 But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.

    Act 21:20 And when they heard [it], they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

    Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave [their] heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but [that] thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.

    Act 22:3 I am verily a man [which am] a Jew, born in Tarsus, [a city] in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, [and] taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

    Act 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],

    Romans 2:12-15; 17-18; 20 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before 'elohim, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another). . . Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of 'elohim, And knowest [his] will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law. . . An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.  

    Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

    Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? 'elohim forbid.

    Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? 'elohim forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

    Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

    Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

    Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of 'elohim after the inward man:

    Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against 'elohim: for it is not subject to the law of 'elohim, neither indeed can be.

    Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

    Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.

    1Corinthians 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to 'elohim, but under the law to the Messiah,) that I might gain them that are without law.

    1Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

    Galatians 3:21 [Is] the law then against the promises of 'elohim? 'Elohim forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    To ALL…..The secret to this understand about the Law , is in the definite article (THE) if you look it up in a Greek translation you will find that Paul did not say by WORKS of (THE) Law , But by works of LAW (the way LAW WORKS) shall (NO) Flesh be JUSTIFIED BEFORE GOD. Law (WORKS) through (FORCED COMPLIANCE) through the medium of fear, even if a man out of (FEAR) controls his behavior it is useless, because while fear can be a deterrent to sin , it can (NEVER) Make the HEART right, forced compliance is Paul's Point because that is How LAW Works. That is why it says we are (CREATED) UNTO GOOD WORKS. BIG Difference, So we do not seek righteousness through the (OPERATION) of LAW

    “O” the richness and Glory and Power to our GOD, who transforms us into his dear childern by renewing our Hearts and Minds. There is none like Him praise Him all you inhabitants of the EARTH and HEAVEN for ever and ever. He is the ROCK of our SALVATION, and our STRONG DEFENSE.  IMO

    peace and love to you all and yours………………….gene

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 05 2009,16:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,01:58)
    hi
    why the Israelits where punish so that they will not enter the sabath of God ?if there is no law ,no punnishment????:cool:


    If you walk according to the ways of the Spirit then there is not law banning your actions but if you walk according to the ways of the flesh there is a law and you will be judged according to it.


    jesus is the new law. the old law of the dominion of sin is no more. that is why if we repent and are true about it we are forgiven. jesus has made it so that we are again allowed to have the chance of living under god's kingdom.

    we are still held responsible for our actions, if they are of the world and its ruler satan there will be no room for you in god's kingdom.

    it is now a spiritual law , our salvation is from spiritual works and faith.

    #280173
     NickHassan 
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    topical

    #280174
     terraricca 
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,12:57)
    topical


    hmmmm ??? topycal ???

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