Jesus came in the flesh and/or changed to flesh

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  • #814604
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    You see implications that are not there.

    #814605
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    I do make errors in many ways so perhaps that is not what you meant by your words.

    If I wronged you then what did you mean by your post that begins “wrong”?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 2 peter 1

    The prophets sometimes also expressed the powers of God as with Elijah and Elisha.

    But only Jesus Christ and those apostles who shared his Spirit fully expressed the nature of God as shown in the fruits

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK…..WHY CAN’T YOU SHOW KERWIN WHERE HE SEES THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE, AND IS “WRONG”, JUST MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT SOMETHING WITHOUT ANY SCRIPTURAL PROOF ONLY SHOW YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THINGS YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF RIGHT? A ACCUSITORY SPIRIT PROVES NOTHING, ONLY CAUSES DISCOURSE.

    While i agree, JESUS WAS NOT BORN WITH THE ANOINTING SPIRIT, kerwin and others say, i can give at least a scriptural reason for it. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND LET YOUR IGOTISTICAL ACCUSITORY SPIRIT TAKES OVER YOUR MIND AND PRODUCE NOTHING TO SHOW KERWIN HIS ERROR. Why is that Nick is it because you don’t have anything to base your assumptions on and so just start to belittle and accuse?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Are you doing what you accuse me of?

    Look after you own faith.

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     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 2 peter 1

    The prophets sometimes also expressed the powers of God as with Elijah and Elisha.

    But only Jesus Christ and those apostles who shared his Spirit fully expressed the nature of God as shown in the fruits

    I agree but that is evidence that God sends his Spirit to do different missions; the same I have claim I have made.

    #814614
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    the One Spirit of life was in Christ Jesus.

    He moved and worked in that Spirit

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     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    That is true but it does not say the how.

    • He performed miracles as he was carried along by the Spirit.
    • He spoke the word of God as he carried along by the Spirit.
    • He bore its fruits as he was carried along by the Spirit.

    All the prophets spoke and some performed miracles but not bore its fruit as they only looked forward to a time when that was done and rejoiced.

    One Spirit that gives different gifts and the last one was given first to Jesus and through him to those that believe in him. God chose Jesus for his position not because of Jesus’ actions but because of God’s grace. Even Jesus’ faith was conceived, born, and matured because of God’s grace.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    He was given the fullness of the Spirit.

    The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy.

    #814619
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    Are you speaking about the fullness of the godhead, as in “divine nature or essence”?

    #814620
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Godhead is of the voice of a stranger.

    jn3

    For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God for He gives the Spirit without measure.

    #814622
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    Godhead is of the voice of a stranger.

    I am not sure what you mean but godhead has been misinterpreted by the ignorant and corrupt but so have essence and nature.

    John 3:34Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    The context is about being carried along by the Spirit but the wording hints at much more.

    #814623
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK AND KERWIN… what is the point of this dialogue between you two?, RIGHTIOUSNESS IS A “CREATION” OF GOD, IT IS NOT ATTAIND, BY ANY EFFORTS OF MAN, THROUGH THE WAY LAW WORKS, It all starts FIRST, with the forgiveness of OUR sins, through GOD THE FATHERS, OFFERING of the blood of THE ANOINTED JESUS. GOD THE FATHER “DRAWS” US TO JESUS BY CONVICTING US OF THE NEED FOR FORGIVENESS OF OUR SINS THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, which convicts us in our hearts, and causes us to repent and seek forgiveness. It GOD WHO FORGIVES AND CLEANES US from all unrightiousness. All this WORKS THROUGH “FAITH’, AND THAT FAITH is not “not” of the self, it is a “GIFT” OF GOD. “for it is God that “works” in us both to will and do of his good pleasure”.

    PSA 32:1-2…Blessed is he whoses trangressions is forgiven, whose sin is covered. 2, Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputes not iniquity and in whose spirit there is no guile. Be carefull that guile is not formed in your spirits,maintain love for each other.

    peace and love to you both and yours. ………gene

    #814624
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    Elisha asked for and received a double portion of the Spirit given to Elijah.

    Jesus Christ was given the Spirit without measure.

    #814627
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    I remember him asking for a double portion but I do not remember how it is described.

    I do know that the use of “fullness” hints at something greater than the context of the verse indicates. Fullness seems to be used to mean entire.

    I also know that Paul spoke of fullness

    Here is a sentence that speaks of believers being filled with the fullness of God.

    Ephesians 3:14-19American Standard Version (ASV)

    14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father, 15 from whom every [a]family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, that ye may be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inward man; 17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; to the end that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be strong to apprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ which passeth knowledge, that ye may be filled unto all the fulness of God.

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