Isaiah 41:18

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    You say

    “Yes the Spirit came down upon him and stayed with him at the Jordan. This was a public recognition that he was the Christ. John was told that the one whom the Spirit comes upon is the Christ and he was recognised as such by many afterward. But he was also recognised before at his birth, when he came in the flesh to be precise.”

    But in another post you agreed it was his anointing

    So confusing

    #809000
     t8 
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    I agreed that the Spirit came down on him at the Jordan because that is written and I agree that he was born Jesus Christ and the Lord. Even an angel of God testified to that. If you are confused, then please don’t shoot me. The Spirit leads us into truth. But if we reject scripture because it disagrees with our view, then it is not scripture that should change.

    An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people.

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    I cling to scripture Nick and what spirit is it that tries to draw men away from scripture and place a snare?

    #809001
     t8 
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    Actually they are your interpretation of the facts.

    No Kerwin. The scriptures I gave are the facts. Look at the one in the above post. That is fact. And it is also a fact that you are trying to draw me away from what it says. Read it carefully and consider the message that the angel of God delivered. If that angel signed up to Heaven Net and spoke to you, you would be arguing against him too.

    #809003
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Yes you stick to the natural meanings and you miss the Spiritual essence.

     

     

    #809010
     t8 
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    Let me get this straight.

    Natural meaning

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord

    Spiritual meaning

    Today in the town of David a MAN WHO WILL BECOME savior has been born to you; he WILL BE the Messiah, the Lord at the Jordan.

    Please make any corrections to the above if your interpretation of this verse (in purple) is not represented well or correctly.

    #809015
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Perhaps you can begin to understand prophetic truth?

    #809018
     Ed J 
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    In calling him the Christ the angel of God merely demonstrated he was the foreordained to be the Christ. This idea may disturb some free will doctrinalists that think predestination in contrary to there teaching but it is not contrary to Scripture.

    Hi Kerwin,

    You are apparently are ignoring Micah 5:2 as well.
    If you are willing to address this, Here’s a (Link)
    to a Post of mine where I spell out the details.

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    God bless
    Ed J

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     t8 
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    Right Nick. lol.

    I think I will stick with the meaning clearly conveyed here. I am not into the so-called hidden secrets, but what God has revealed.

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord

    #809055
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    The infant in his mother’s arms was destined to be the saviour.

    God would work through him

     

    Lk 1.68f

    Blessed be the Lord God of Israel for He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people.

    And He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of David, His servant.

    As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from of old-salvation from our enemies

    and from the hand of all who hate us..

     

    It is the work of God not man.

     

    Lk 2.34

    ..Behold this child IS APPOINTED for the fall and rise of many in Israel.

    Prophecy

     

     

     

     

    #809076
     t8 
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    So he was born the Christ, the Lord, and the saviour? Yes/No.

    #809078
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    The Saviour was born.

    Later we would see his anointing and ministry.

    #809093
     t8 
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    Nick, the Christ was born. God made him both Lord and Christ and the angel declared he was born as such. What comes first, a prophecy uttered by a prophet or the prophet.

    Jesus Christ was sent into the world to save sinners. He was born the Christ and acknowledged as the Christ. Also the savior as you say as well as the King of the Jews and the Lord. He has preeminence in all things.

    #809094
     t8 
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    I wonder if you could do me a favour Nick. Can we let this topic be about Isaiah 41:18? That is what was intended, but we ended up conversing on a subject that spanned over 5 or more topics. I am trying to tidy up a bit and would prefer what we are talking about be continued in the ‘Is Jesus the Logos’ topic or other relevant topic.

    Thanks in advance.

    #809096
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Yes the plan of God is that all living men share His Spirit,

    the waters of eternal life,

    so all can know God

    and be taught by Him.

     

    Jesus as the second Adam showed the way.

    #809107
     t8 
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    Amen!

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