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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….That is right Jesus was not a spirit when he walked on water , nor was he when he went through the door after his resurection either.
    Angels don’t inhabit bodies, because the have bodies of their own as we have. The spirits they have in their bodies are given them by God the same as he does with us, the difference is they can live forever in those bodies. We are to inherit bodies like theirs also as Jesus said.

    Your belief that a spirit is somekind of “body” and Jesus and those who are reserected have, simply is not true. There is not a single scripture that says that. While there is a body that is “spritually” generated as Adam and Eve had, which by the way could have lived forever had they eaten of the tree of life which was avalable to them before they sinned, the bodies we have can to, if we are given permission to eat of the tree of life and we could live forever. A spirit without a body is naked and desires to be clothed with a body.
    Jesus plainly said when a unclean spirit leaves a human body it goes about in arid, “dry”, places looking for rest.

    Spirits seem to need a body to live in that has mosture so they can find rest, why do you think the unclean spirits ask Jesus permission to go into the pigs for. It seems they need a body to live or they drift around dehydrated being tormented. IMO

    Nick….tell us is the spirit of wisdom a person?, what about the spitit of truth that God give us is that a person also? Please address this.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    It is all about the amazing Spirit.

    Read  1Cor 12.4 -31 and you will see laid out all the gifts of the Spirit.

    These manifested in the anointed prophets and apostles, and fully in the anointed man, Jesus of Nazareth.

    Read of the fruits of the Spirit in Gal 5.22 and you will see the nature of Grace d again expressed in the prophets and apostles and fully in Jesus Christ.

    So when scripture speaks of someone having a spirit of wisdom, it could equally be written as a gift, or grace or blessing.

    The Spirit is complex but always one. The servant Spirit of the Son is an aspect but so is the Spirit of truth from the Father. And the Spirit given to Elijah matches that given to John the Baptist.

     

     

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick….I am not saying the same spirit can’t be in all and work through all, where did i say that? But each type and kind of spirit is unique unto it self. Hopefully the same spirit of truth is in me as well as you and all how have “it”. But every spirit has it’s own type, just as your spirit t h at put in you is unique to you, and the spirit God put in me is unique to me, same with everyone else or how could we be any different from one another.But we all can posses other spirits also, i.e. the spirit of truth, spirit of wisdom, spirit of a sound mind, the SPIRIT OF GOD, why God? Because GOD “IS” SPIRIT, AND THEREFORE CAN “INDWELL” US ALL AT THE SAME TIME. REMEMBER WHAT IT SAYS, “THAT GOD MAY BE ALL, IN YOU ALL”. GOD’S SEVEN SPIRITS ACT AS HIS EYES, AND CAN BE IN US ALL, AS THEY ARE IN THE “SLAIN” LAMB, JESUS WHY SLAIN (meaning dead) ? Because God’s seven spirits “In” JESUS comes to establish his kingdom, through Jesus, therefore it says in scripture, ” O God thy kingdom is an everlasting…….. , IT is God the father that is establishing “his” kingdom and makes Jesus’ enimies his foot stool. It is not Jesus doing it, but God the Father “in” him doing it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #823022
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    In your confusion you try to divide the One Spirit of God.

     

    #823030
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….Scripture say in three places that their are seven spirits of God, So why say i am trying to devid the spieit of God, why blame me for what scriptures say? Now have you ever thought that “maybe”, the is a single spirit of God himself, but he also created seven spirits he uses as his eyes so to speak, and these seven spirits act to supply him their individual atributes which he uses to guide the decisions he makes, therefore they are pictured as being before the throne of God, as lights because they perhaps enlighten God and help guide his thoughts. Or perhaps these seven spirits are what make up who God is? Do i apsolute know that “no” , do you apsolute know that is not true “no” you don’t either. How many spirits can you or any man have? Do you know, i highely doubt you can, If we can posses the Spirit of truth, and our owns spirit given us at berth, and other spirits also as the spirit of wisdom, a spirit of a sound mind, as well as many other spirits, what makes you think GOD CAN’T. I will go with what scripture say, there are seven spirits of God. Why do you go against that seening it is written in scriptures, do you know more then what scriptures say?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #823042
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Angels are spirits.

    God has servants who do His work.

     

    Angels are the messengers of God.

    The watchers role is to be the eyes of God over earth.

     

    God does not have physical eyes as He is spirit.

    God is one and His Spirit is one. Look above mere earthly things

    #823043
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

    In The Father of lights there is no variation or shifting shadow

     

     

    #823044
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    There is no confusion in God.

    So if He says His Spirit is one He does not contradict Himself.

     

    Since scripture gives many meanings for spirit it would be odd to assume it means He has 7 Spirits.

    The verse in Rev 1.4 says that these spirits are BEFORE HIS THRONE.

    So if God is on the throne how could you see this meaning?

    God is never SEPARATE from HIS SPIRIT.

     

    #823050
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Nick…who said the seven spirits of God are “physical eyes”. Thats the way your looking at that seven spirits as actual beings, not me, the light of God is spirit and those who have his spirit of truth precieve him as spirit, but you belive God’s seven “spritual” eyes are angels, no scripture says that.

    Angels are not spirits as you falsely believe, even though GOD gives them spirits just like he does all his creation. Angels are created physical beings, just as we are the have bodies as we do, but they do not taste death as we do, so we are just a “little” below them, but your perception of them as spirit beings themselves would make them more then a “little” different, would it not? There is no scripture that shows a spirit drinking and eating food is there?, yet angels do eat and drink, and are physical being as scriptures “many” plainly show.

    Jesus went up into heaven with a physical body, and is said to return the “same” way he left, and the Saints will rise and meet him at his return and decend back to this earth with him and takeover control of this earths governments.

    Show us where any scripture says we will become “spirits”. The scripture ì read says our “BODIES” will be resurected from the grave. “It” (the body) is sown in weakness “It” (the body) is “raised” with power and glory’. Where does the “it” (the body) change to mean spirit?

    Nick tell us, where are you getting these ideas from brother? Not scripture.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #823052
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    You have broken Hebrews 1 about angels to justify your dogma.

    ”Are they not ministering spirits..?”

    You have yet to explain how the seven spirits of God are in front of the throne of God.

    You are convinced about angelic bodies?

     

    #823054
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    We are told we will be like to the angels.

    But instead you think they are already alike to us?

    Do they not have heavenly bodies just like we will have?

     

    Raise your eyes above weak earthly flesh and see what is heavenly.

    #823055
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Where did I say we will become spirits?

    We do not know what we will be like, but we will be like our master.

    1 Jn 3.2

    Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be.

    We know that when he appears , we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is.

    #825492
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK…You said ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS, CORRECT?, now what did Jesus say we would be like, in the resruction?, was it not the angels? So naturally i assumed you believe we will become spirits at the resurection, if i was wrong i apologize brother.

    Now we are told we are just, “a little below the angels”, right? Scripture also says Jesus was made, “a little below the angels” to, why ” for the tasting of death ” that is the same with us also, we are made a “little” below angels “in what way”, for the tasting of death also. NO difference as he was so are we. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #825627
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    Spiritual wisdom is one of the many manifestations of the one Holy Spirit.

    1cor 2 ,1Cor 12, Eph.

    #825628
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Gene,

    No you have not shown that angels taste death.

    Read it again I suggest.

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