HolySpirit is GOD: The Father of Jesus Christ

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     kerwin 
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    Ed,

    Pretty much and post to you as I think as I post and therefore they are apt to develop.

    #809518
     miia 
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    Hi Miia,

    All sons are part of their father – “Yes” or “No”?

    Miia?

    Hi Ed.

    Not all sons are part of their Father. Some are adopted. God is not a man. God is the father of spirits. What does this all mean? Look to the spirit of Jesus for the divine which was in him.

    #809521
     Ed J 
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    Hi Miia,

    I didn’t ask if adopted son’s are part of their adopted father; anything to dodge a question!

    Now please answer my question…

    All sons are part of their father – “Yes” or “No”?

    #809523
     miia 
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    Well Yes all sons are part of their biological father. Why?

    #809524
     kerwin 
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    Ed,

    Could you strive to be more peaceful?

    “anything to dodge a question” are unnecessary words even if it is true and suspicion does not equal guilt.

    There is a time for harsher words but good communications is often ruined by them.

    #809526
     Ed J 
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    Well Yes all sons are part of their biological father. Why?

    Hi Miia,

    How quickly our memory fades.
    Because I asked…
    And your non-answer was…

    Is “the spirit of Christ” God?

    The Spirit of Christ (the Holy Spirit) is a part of God.

    So saying all son’s are part of their father IS NOT AN ANSWER TO…

    Is “the spirit of Christ” God? …”Yes” or “No”?

    Now please, pretty please, will you answer the question I asked?

    #809527
     Ed J 
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    Ed,

    “anything to dodge a question” are unnecessary words even if it is true…

    🙂

    #809551
     miia 
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    Ed, are you on something? Do you smoke weed, take medication?

    Your questions are designed to confuse people, even if they answer. You can keep them.

    #809557
     kerwin 
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    Miia,

    Natural languages are confusing which is why yes and no questions are not the best for communications. They may work with a short explanation but even that can be unsatisfactory.

    Ed is coming from somewhere but that somewhere is probably a different knowledge base that you have.

    Mystics would say the Spirit is the child of God because it comes from him. That is there method of speech but Ed seems to take literal what is not meant literal.

    I have heard that certain drugs can have that side effect but people experience it without taking those drugs.

    #809560
     miia 
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    Kerwin, Ed asked me one question, (Is “the spirit of Christ” God”), in which I answered… I could not answer with a “yes or no” answer, so I answered it how I saw it. NEXT, he asks me a separate question, (“All sons are part of their father – “Yes” or “No”?) in which I answered with a “yes” once I reworded my answer to, (“all sons are part of their ‘biological’ father”). Then he said that “saying all son’s are part of their father IS NOT AN ANSWER TO… Is “the spirit of Christ” God? …”Yes” or “No”? Now please, pretty please, will you answer the question I asked?”.

    What??

    Ed is confusing himself with his own questions!

    I have heard that certain drugs can have that side effect but people experience it without taking those drugs.

    Yes.

    #809561
     miia 
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    Mystics would say the Spirit is the child of God because it comes from him.

    Do you remember where you read that, if it was read?

    #809563
     kerwin 
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    Miia,

    Actually Jewish mystics do that sort of thing regularly. The case I know best of is calling Wisdom the daughter of God. I have even heard some call wisdom the wife of God. Gnostics corrupted that later. Both the Mystics and Gnostics called her Sophia, which by translation is Wisdom. She is also known in Christian mysticism.

    I also know Philo of Alexandria referred to the logos of God as the first begotten and he was not talking of Jesus.

    I do not know if the Spirit was ever referred to in such a way but it would not surprise me.

    Wikipedia talks about Sophia and Philo’s teaching and commentary on them is readily available.

    The ancient mystics not what passes for them today. Simple idea have been made unnecessary complex and perhaps false.

    #809609
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KW,

    You are speaking of spiritual language.

    No need to glorify Jewish mysticism in the process.

     

    #809612
     miia 
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    Miia,

    Actually Jewish mystics do that sort of thing regularly. The case I know best of is calling Wisdom the daughter of God. I have even heard some call wisdom the wife of God. Gnostics corrupted that later. Both the Mystics and Gnostics called her Sophia, which by translation is Wisdom. She is also known in Christian mysticism.

    I also know Philo of Alexandria referred to the logos of God as the first begotten and he was not talking of Jesus.

    I do not know if the Spirit was ever referred to in such a way but it would not surprise me.

    Wikipedia talks about Sophia and Philo’s teaching and commentary on them is readily available.

    The ancient mystics not what passes for them today. Simple idea have been made unnecessary complex and perhaps false.

    OK, thanks.

    #809715
     Ed J 
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    Hi KW,

    You are speaking of spiritual language.

    No need to glorify Jewish mysticism in the process.

    Hi Nick,

    So often we find people trying to make others weak by comparison
    by comparing them to mystics, drug addicts, ect. Sad really.

    They do so in order draw the focus away from weaknesses in their doctrine
    that it is exposed and talked about through asking the hard questions.

    …which they want to avoid the plague!

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

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