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     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?

    #350584
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.

    #350617
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?

    #350633
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #350659
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.

    #350677
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.

    #350693
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love

    #350723
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.

    #350763
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,20:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.


    God doesn't want you to not have desires, HE has put in place all that you could desire. I toldyou it is only incorrect desires not desire itself. God does not want you to be a monk.

    Then, We sent after them, Our Messengers, and We sent Iesa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him, compassion and mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but that they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are Fasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Quran 57:27)

    We are to begrateful for what God created just as HE saw it “VERY GOOD” all tha HE created.

    #350771
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,06:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,20:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.


    God doesn't want you to not have desires, HE has put in place all that you could desire. I toldyou it is only incorrect desires not desire itself. God does not want you to be a monk.

    Then, We sent after them, Our Messengers, and We sent Iesa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him, compassion and mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but that they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are Fasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Quran 57:27)

    We are to begrateful for what God created just as HE saw it “VERY GOOD” all tha HE created.


    Boditharta.

    That is what I said; stay away from bad desires of the flesh. Enjoy your picnics,drink your wine,have your fun;
    but dont break Gods laws.

    I know muslems are not allowed to drink wine,but they all do,some in the open, and some behind closed doors.
    I have known many muslems.

    wakeup.

    #350779
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2013,09:31)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,06:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,20:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.


    God doesn't want you to not have desires, HE has put in place all that you could desire. I toldyou it is only incorrect desires not desire itself. God does not want you to be a monk.

    Then, We sent after them, Our Messengers, and We sent Iesa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him, compassion and mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but that they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are Fasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Quran 57:27)

    We are to begrateful for what God created just as HE saw it “VERY GOOD” all tha HE created.


    Boditharta.

    That is what I said; stay away from bad desires of the flesh. Enjoy your picnics,drink your wine,have your fun;
    but dont break Gods laws.

    I know muslems are not allowed to drink wine,but they all do,some in the open, and some behind closed doors.
    I have known many muslems.

    wakeup.


    Okay so we agree.

    #350788
     Wakeup 
    Participant
    • Topics started 386
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,12:36)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2013,09:31)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,06:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,20:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.


    God doesn't want you to not have desires, HE has put in place all that you could desire. I toldyou it is only incorrect desires not desire itself. God does not want you to be a monk.

    Then, We sent after them, Our Messengers, and We sent Iesa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him, compassion and mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but that they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are Fasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Quran 57:27)

    We are to begrateful for what God created just as HE saw it “VERY GOOD” all tha HE created.


    Boditharta.

    That is what I said; stay away from bad desires of the flesh. Enjoy your picnics,drink your wine,have your fun;
    but dont break Gods laws.

    I know muslems are not allowed to drink wine,but they all do,some in the open, and some behind closed doors.
    I have known many muslems.

    wakeup.


    Okay so we agree.


    Boditharta.

    The spirit must be strong enough to overrule
    the bad desires of the flesh.

    They always say;its human nature.
    Thats true;but the wrong way of human nature.
    Because in the end, it will cause trouble personally
    and also for others.

    wakeup.

    #350789
     bodhitharta 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2013,14:58)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,12:36)


    Okay so we agree.

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 15 2013,09:31)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 15 2013,06:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,20:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,17:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2013,13:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:49)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:23)
    Boditharta.

    I like to encourage you to ask questions.
    So far there is none here;all too proud.
    Lets not strife for religion,but for truth.

    So we can know God and his Son.

    wakeup.


    Do you believe that God wants Mercy or Sacrifice?


    Boditharta.

    Thank you.

    From all his followers; all he wants is obedience to
    his teacings,and not to fall away from it.
    But then; If a time occurs,that we have to choose to please our selfs,or to please God.
    He demmands sacrifice;by denying yourself.

    You should love God more than yourself.
    If we renounce our own pleasures to please God;
    That is a sacrifice accepted.
    You should love your God more that yourself.

    You shall love the lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul,and with all your mind,and with all your strenght.

    This is how we obtain mercy.

    wakeup.


    So are you saying that we obtain Mercy when we are obedient and renounce our own will for the will of God?


    Boditharta.

    We ought to be dead in the flesh.
    Not easy to do,to just have one desire, to serve God.
    The flesh is always agaist the spirit.
    The flesh have the desire to do someting unlawful;but the spirit inside says no.

    Sometimes the the spirit wants to do something good;but the flesh says no, maybe tomorrow.

    God wants us not to touch the unclean thing.
    Be ye holy ;for God is holy.
    Accept the yoke of Christ,not the yoke of the world.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    We are not to b dead in th flesh nor did Jesus ever preach such thing.

    John 10:10
    The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    We were put here to:

    Genesis 1:28
    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    God wants us to enjoy HIS creation but discipline is not denying or killing the flesh it is using the channels God has already provided.

    Joy and sex with your own woman not someone elses or with a man.

    Enjoy your own provisions do not tak the provisions of others or falsely accuse others of doing so…etc.

    The Blueprint to Absolute JOY in this world and the next comes with the devotion of God. You SIN when you miss the Mark and pervert that blueprint.

    Still and all God prefers Mercy over Sacrifice an the knowledge of God more than any burnt offerings.


    Boditharta.

    Colossians 3:3   For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.(DEAD IN THE FLESH AND ITS DESIRES;BUT ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT).

    1 Timothy 5:6   But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. (DEAD SPIRITUALLY WHILE ALIVE IN THE FLESH).

    2 Timothy 2:11   It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:(DEAD TO THE WORLD,NOT HAVING THE DESIRES OF THE WORLD).

    BE YE SEPERATE; DONT GET YOURSLEF YOKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.

    wakeup.


    You are using the term “world” in a different context then I am

    “For GOD so LOVED the world”

    This is the world I love


    Boditharta.

    Dead to the world meaning;
    dead to the spirit of the world,which is all the desires
    of the flesh that brings miseries,and sorrows.
    In Christ only we find peace.

    wakeup.


    God doesn't want you to not have desires, HE has put in place all that you could desire. I toldyou it is only incorrect desires not desire itself. God does not want you to be a monk.

    Then, We sent after them, Our Messengers, and We sent Iesa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him, compassion and mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but that they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are Fasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Quran 57:27)

    We are to begrateful for what God created just as HE saw it “VERY GOOD” all tha HE created.


    Boditharta.

    That is what I said; stay away from bad desires of the flesh. Enjoy your picnics,drink your wine,have your fun;
    but dont break Gods laws.

    I know muslems are not allowed to drink wine,but they all do,some in the open, and some behind closed doors.
    I have known many muslems.

    wakeup.


    Boditharta.

    The spirit must be strong enough to overrule
    the bad desires of the flesh.
    They always say;its human nature.
    Thats true;but the wrong way of human nature.
    Because in the end, it will cause trouble personally
    and also for others.

    wakeup.


    AMEN :)

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