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  • #5613
     t8 
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    This vision happened while I was sleeping.

    In the vision I saw a light above me and in the corner of my eye I noticed something moving. I quickly focused on what was moving and realised that it was darkness starting to eclipse the light. I started to say to myself “the darkness is eclipsing the light” and I expected it to totally block out the light. But when the darkness covered half of the light it stopped. So I was faced with darkness on my right and light on my left. I then said to myself “I know what you are saying to me God, You're saying that I have a choice I can either choose the Light or the Darkness”. So I thought to myself which one shall I choose. I then said to God “You have shown me Heaven (I had a vision of Heaven, some time before this one) and I have seen your light before, I wonder what the darkness is like?”

    All of a sudden I was in the darkness and there was no light to be seen anywhere. I was shocked to be here and I said to God “I only thought about coming here and now I am here” I was instantly transported there just by thinking about it, no time to change my mind. I then thought to myself that Oh well I'm here now so I might as well find out what it is all about. As I said before it was pitch black and I could not see any light. I stood in the darkness for about 5 seconds and couldn't see anything or feel anything. It was a little bit frightening but I did not feel any pain. I then thought to myself maybe I should leave as there is nothing here.

    Then all of a sudden I saw something. So I focused as hard as I could to see what it was. I then saw the form of a person and I focused on the face of this person. I started to think to myself is this a person in hell? I kept focusing on this persons face and then I saw the persons eyes. All of a sudden I had the most horrible and frightening experience in my life. When I looked into this persons eyes I saw and felt the horror of Hell in an instant. I was so shocked that I said “I am leaving” and with that I was faced once again by light on my left hand side and darkness on my right. I stood motionless as I got myself together and tried to understand what happened. I said to myself “What was that horror that I experienced”. I know it was terrible beyond words yet almost straight away I started to forget how bad it was and I said ” I am going back inside and I am going to face this fear and this time I will overcome it for God is with me.” Again I saw this person suffering for his sins in hell. Again I looked into the persons eyes and the horror happened again. It was like there was an invisible river of pure evil flowing through this persons being and he was in an absolute state of horror himself. He was in torment.

    The only way I can explain this punishment is to say this. Imagine the words good, love, wisdom, friendship, peace, joy, and harmony. Well these things did not exist in this place, not even an inch of these things existed. It was pure darkness, suffering and torment. After this I just wanted to get out and the vision came to an end.

    In Revelation 2:11 it says “Let the person who has ears listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. Everyone who wins the victory will never be hurt by the second death.
    Death when translated means separation and physical death is when your soul is separated from your body. The second death is where your soul is separate from God and all his goodness, once seperated from the God of the Living, you .

    You see my friend when you travel down the road of sin , your destination is torment then destruction. You will suffer, then be cast away from God and his Kingdom forever, never to be given life again.

    This revelation satisfied my curiosity about the Darkness and Evil and I am totally convinced that it is not the way to go.
    Yet I see people every day living sinful lives and not caring about eternal things. How sorry those people will be if they do not turn from their sins.

    Years later I regret not choosing the Light when I saw it the second time in this vision, I believe I would have seen much more of the wonderful glories of Heaven. But this chance never happened again. I do however feel very fortunate to have experienced both sides (Heaven & Hell) and I believe that God showed me these visions because I really desired to know the truth and he wanted me to tell others.

    As Matthew 7:7 says “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

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    #5719
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,
    Do you know if it was Hades or gehenna?

    I respect your experience as being valid anyway and thank you for sharing it. i would love to see more contributions as there must be more out there

    One of my daughters was going through a very stressful time with the accidental death of a friend. She had been invited to go out with her that night the friend was killed but had decided not to. She prayed that God would send her an angel to help her and she asked if she could be allowed to see the angel.

    She woke in the middle of the night and saw a small older manlike figure sitting perched on top of a chair in her room and dressed in ordinary clothes.

    The angel[?]was not looking particularly at her but just sitting there and it caused her no anxiety to see him and she went back to sleep. No person was there in the morning and no one else had noticed anything unusual.

    Of course we cannot build doctrine from such experiences but they do add to our understandings. In fact we are warned to be careful in this area as far as it influences us, as it can never equal scripture itself. [Coll 2.18]

    #5722
     t8 
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    There isn't much teaching in the scripture as regards to hell or the place of the wicked dead. But some by revelation have decided that there are different levels of hell. Some say that the worse part is called 'Outer Darkness'.

    I am not sure about these things, but my experience seems to be similar to this so-called Outer Darkness, (whatever that is). I knew what it was like to be completely cut off, not only from God, but also from all that is from him (that is good), especially love.

    I can assure anyone who thinks God doesn't exist that they would be sorry if they were cut off from his goodness. To them it would be like he didn't exist and they would know no love, goodness, wisdom, and light. Instead they would experience the absense of these things which is terrifying beyond belief. They would then wish that they had God or that God had them in his love.

    It's easy for men to say that they don't need God, but they are so ignorant. After this vision, I was struck by how much grace there is toward men, even sinners. We have so much to be thankful for. We shouldn't ignore God. His goodness is all around us.

    All love, even from sinners originates in God's love for man. Take that away and there is not joy (enjoyment) or comfort. Just the opposite, intense fear.

    #5723
     t8 
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    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth. We can be led into all truth even if we were in a place where scripture didn’t exist. If we had scripture and even understanding of it’s teaching, it would be useless if we had not the Spirit of God.All that we are shown in life by the Spirit will line up with scripture. Scripture is important in that it shows us when we err and it teaches us the truth. But without the Spirit it is pointless.As it is written: “The letter kills but the Spirit gives life”. Even the scriptures are nothing but paper and words, without the Spirit of God that is.

    #5724
     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,
    I agree we need both to have safety on the path. The Spirit wrote the Word through men anyway. But the spirits must be tested too as many are following religious spirits.
    2Thess 1.9
    “And these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, AWAY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD AND FROM THE GLORY OF HIS POWER”

    #11011
     Bastian 
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 18 2005,01:43)
    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth. We can be lead into all truth even if we were in a place where scripture didn't exist. If we had scripture and even understanding of it's teaching, it would be useless if we had not the Spirit of God.

    All that we are shown in life by the Spirit will line up with scripture. Scripture is important in that it shows us when we err and it teaches us the truth. But without the Spirit it is pointless.

    As it is written: “The letter kills but the Spirit gives life”. Even the scriptures are nothing but paper and words, without the Spirit of God that is.


    t8,

    It is so true what you said about the scriptures. I want to share this with you. I find it strange, and amazing at the same time. For study purposes I have six or seven different bible versions. I also have a Greek bible, and the Hebrew Tanakh.

    I do not completely trust all of the interpretations from the vulgate with its trinitarian slant. That is why I use the Hebrew bible in my studies. For instance, the Holy Spirit is an it,  not he, which is the correct translatian. However, when I read the H.B. the words are dead. The spirit of life is not in them. I think I know why. The Tanakh is dependable as long as it has no relation to Christ. Scripture that obviously points to Jesus as Messiah has been altered.

    I am not saying that God ever approves of altering his word. But, I do believe that,”messin with his son” makes Him really

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    #11012
     kenrch 
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 18 2005,19:43)
    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth. We can be lead into all truth even if we were in a place where scripture didn't exist. If we had scripture and even understanding of it's teaching, it would be useless if we had not the Spirit of God.

    All that we are shown in life by the Spirit will line up with scripture. Scripture is important in that it shows us when we err and it teaches us the truth. But without the Spirit it is pointless.

    As it is written: “The letter kills but the Spirit gives life”. Even the scriptures are nothing but paper and words, without the Spirit of God that is.


    t8,
    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth.
    If you have the Spirit of truth then scripture would agree with the Holy Spirit.
    I believe as long as you stand on this scripture then you can't receive a false spirit. If you ask for the Holy Spirit then that's what the Father will give you. That's what His Word says, and I believe His Word.
    Some people say well how do you know that spirit is the Holy Spirit? Because the Word gives me assurance that I have received the Holy Spirit.

    Rom. 8:16 and:
    Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

    Thanks t8 I enjoy reading your posts.

    #11029
     t8 
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    To Bastian & kenrch,

    thanks for your encouragement.

    :)

    #11893
     sandra 
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    I appreciated your sharing and completely understand what you are speaking about for I had a very similar experience while awake. After, I needed to take my daughter out of the crib and hold her and have love flowing through my person again. I had asked for the experience and shall never do so again. Man needs to seek the Lord, while He may stilll be found….Seek and Ye shall find, Knock and the door shall be opened….or they shall beg that the mountains shall fall on them but, they shall not die…..

    #97228
     Theologian-and-Apologist 
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    Thank you for sharing, Hell is a real place and it is not happy at all. I heard Goerge Forman describe how hell was like when he went there temporarily, he said it was the land of broken dreams and sorrows that outnumber anything on earth.

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     John3:3 
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    T8, I was shown a waking vision of Hell in 1978 when I became saved. My experience sounds very close to yours. Total Blackness, Indescribable physical and mental torment and having your concious mind stripped of anything that was ever good, lovely or pure in this world during your lifetime. Only the memory of evil and sin and the realization that there is no more time, just an eternal NOW. Only way I can describe the pain is like every atom of your being is on fire. The pain is so terrible you cannot put it in human terms. Human terms are finite, and the suffering is infinite, because the God that you sinned against is infinite.

    The “worm that dieth not” rips at your mind with all the chances to accept Christ in this life that you rejected. Every second of every day you lived was a chance that you had to accept Christ and give him your heart and life.

    4 words echo through your mind for eternity “THERE IS NO HOPE”

    This terrible fate will never let up, never subside, never cease.

    How great and awesome is the foregiveness for our eternal sins that Jesus paid on the cross by his eternal sacrifice!!! We will never fully know in this lifetime I can assure you.

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     Not3in1 
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    Welcome John 3:3!

    Your first post is an attention graber!  Look forward to hearing more.

    Glad that you are here,
    Mandy

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     John3:3 
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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 23 2008,03:34)
    Welcome John 3:3!

    Your first post is an attention graber!  Look forward to hearing more.

    Glad that you are here,
    Mandy


    Thanks for the welcome Mandy. 2008 marks the 30th year since I became saved and had this vision and it has not faded in my mind all these years. The past 30 years, I have been able to get a lot of questions answered regading Hell by passages in the Bible and by the wisdom that the Holy Spirit has given me. when I accepted Christ, I only knew 1 verse in the Bible, guess which one?

    I am going to put something down in writing soon about this topic that explains the 5 W's about Hell (Who,Why, Where,What,When)

    I hope it will bring some people from the darkness in to the light. Pray for me that God's wisdom directs this effort.

    Thanks again,

    John3:3 (Chris)

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    Looks like we have a new member! Welcome, I am an old member, but had to renew my membership because of trouble with my computer.
    I am looking forward to your post on “Hell”. Do you believe there is one?
    Peace and Love Irene :D :D

    #102938
     david 
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    Here is one of the larger threads on “hell”

    http://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….8;st=10

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