July 12, 2018 at 7:01 am #832209
So you believe the amature scientists doing their own experiments have all been using “trickery”?
Regarding Flat Earthers, either trickery, intentional or nonintential deception, or a lack of scientific understanding of the true observation.
Globe Earth amateurs the same, except the they don’t need to resort to intentional deception and they usually understand the true nature of the observation.
I would also like to add that conspiracies are obviously a real thing, but the term is often applied to mean paranoid believer in multitudes of conspiracy theories. I know some I went to school with who are like this now. I wondered about this and discovered that they all had one thing in common, they were all regular users of marajuana. Obviously my observations on this is from a very small data set. Paranoid delusion is a side effect of marajuana overuse.July 12, 2018 at 7:24 am #832213
What about the fact that most of the FE researchers are Bible believing Christians? If one Christian astronaut should not be discounted then what about hundreds of FE Christians?July 12, 2018 at 7:51 am #832218
I guess what I would like to know is, T8, Gene, Nick, etc. which part of the Bible do you have a problem with? Is it the firmament which divides the waters from the waters? Or perhaps the pillars that the earth is set upon. I understand what a simile is; “A simile (/ˈsɪməli/) is a figure of speech that directly compares two things.”
So would the pillars be a rotating ball set on nothing? Is that a simile?
Lets go there, explain the pillars please from each of you perspectives.July 12, 2018 at 10:11 am #832223GeneBalthropParticipant
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T8….The guy i know was also a regular marajuana user to, interesting. Hay Mike do you and Dg4, use marajuana regulary? I have heard reports that it can produce parnoid side effects.
Just courious Mike and Dg4, not trying to accuse you guy’s of it.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..geneJuly 12, 2018 at 11:27 am #832227
Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves..July 12, 2018 at 1:22 pm #832228
What about the fact that most of the FE researchers are Bible believing Christians? If one Christian astronaut should not be discounted then what about hundreds of FE Christians?
Most people who believe in the Trinity, an eternal hell, and believe their church is the only true one, also call themselves Christian.
Unfortunately many who profess the faith believe in dark ages doctrines because they read their Bible wrong. I hate to say it but it is true, that many who profess the faith are in themselves stumbling blocks for Atheists and others who might have entered in to the way. This happens because they hold onto traditions of men and wander into interpretations of scripture using their vain minds.July 12, 2018 at 1:26 pm #832229
As to your question Dig, I don’t have any issues currently with scripture. I guess you must have a few like Jesus coming back with a two edged sword coming from his mouth and frog demons coming out of a real dragon.July 12, 2018 at 10:02 pm #832237
Well you guys, that was a spectacular display of obfuscation. When asked a simple sincere question about the pillars of the earth no one answered it. Would y’all care to try again or is it too damaging for your side?July 12, 2018 at 10:52 pm #832238
Eph 6:7 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
t8, does the verse above say “IS” the Word of God or “IS LIKE” the Word of God? Could we say, as reasonable believers in Messiah Yeshua that we have an understanding about what it means when it says “and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.”?
But I guess my main question is will you stop using this verse to obfuscate the true issue?
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Psalm 75:2-3 When I select an appointed time, It is I who judge with equity. 3 “The earth and all who dwell in it melt;
It is I who have firmly set its pillars.July 13, 2018 at 2:16 am #832246GeneBalthropParticipant
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Deg4….a pillar is simply a support that helps carry weight, the mantel or crust of the earth can be considered as a pillar, so whats that got to do with a “FLAT EARTH?
I THINK THE PARNOIA may be more the problem here, seening ever thing you guys have produced has already be disproven over and over, and seeing you guys also believe in othwr things that lik minded people believe in. Ther seems to be a fear of somekind driving you thoughts and imaginations. That seem to effect all conspiracy theorists equally.
Here is another one, lets see how far you have traveled down that path, the whole world is run by just a few who control all the monetary systems of the whole world, and these few control all the power and money in the whold world. Do you also identify with that conspiracy theory to?
Now lets see what we have here, don’t believe any mathematic formulas, astronauts, photos and movies from any space station, any personal oberservation like ships going over the horizions, nothing our space agencies tells, the satlites we see arn’t going around the earth, people on the ISS, AREN’T REALLY THERE, don’t believe that jet engines actually do give off vapor trails, but believe our own government wan’t to kill us all off, and on and on i goes.
But you would have us believe you people are not parnoid in the least, right? LOL
Peace and love to you and yours. ……geneJuly 13, 2018 at 5:49 am #832247
Gene, the crust of the earth IS the earth. Now what are the pillars that hold it up?
By the way, do you have a degree in psychology?July 13, 2018 at 7:18 am #832253
I will give thanks to You, O God we give thanks, for your Name is near; I will declare Your wondrous works
‘ When I select an appointed time, it is I Who judge with equity.
The earth and all who dwell in it melt; it is I Who have firmly set it’s pillars.’
I said to the boastful, ‘Do not boast’, and said to the wicked.’ Do not lift up the horn;
Do not lift up your horn on high, Do not speak with insolent pride’
For not from the east, nor from the west, nor from the desert comes exultation;
but God is the Judge; He puts down one and exalts another.
For a cup is in the hand of the Lord, and the wine foams.
It is well mixed, and He pours out of this;
Surel all the wicked of the earth must drain and drink down it’s dregs.
But as for me, I will declare it forever;
I will sing praises to the God of Jacob.
And all the horns of the wicked will be cut off,
but the horns of the righteous will be lifted up.
Why would you think PILLARS here refers to a physical earthly structure?
Why not HORNS.July 13, 2018 at 7:46 am #832254
Ps 75 is about the SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD and the helplessness and vanity of men who do not fear Him.
Nothing to do with the structure of His creation but the spiritual foundations.
All mankind is like grass…July 13, 2018 at 9:19 am #832255
Now behold I have made you as a fortified city and as. PILLAR of iron, and as walls of bronze against the whole land,
to the kings of Judah, to it’s princes, to it’s priests and to the people of the land. They will fight against you ,
but they will not overcome you, for I am with you to deliver you.
Jeremiah is as a SPIRITUAL PILLAR.July 13, 2018 at 9:28 am #832256
He who overcomes I will make a PILLAR in the temple of my God, and he will not go out from it anymore;
and I will write on him the name of my God, and the nameof the city of my God, The New Jerusalem,
which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my new name.
You too can be a SPIRITUAL PILLAR if you come back to the service of truth.
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