Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. T8

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     mikeboll64 
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    Hi T8,

    Here’s my first question:

    Can the size and/or shape of the earth be determined by observing two shadows?  YES or NO?

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    #831879
     t8 
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    Great Mike. This will keep points in check.

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     t8 
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    Don’t know Mike. I will research this a bit and try and come back with a yes or no.

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     t8 
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    Haven’t researched this because I think you are heading in the direction of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about that guy who worked out the circumference using two wells and measuring the shadows cast inside them. If so, I will let you ask another question as that is a wasted question. We both already know that two wells can point to either model. But Neil deGrasse Tyson’s point was a third one proves the globe.

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     mikeboll64 
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    Here’s that screenshot…

    The “no reply at heaven net” link is busted too.  Comes back to me as undeliverable.  Anyway, I solved the problem.  I just have to refresh when I log back on.

     

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     mikeboll64 
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    T8:  We both already know that two wells can point to either model

    You’ve almost answered the question directly and honestly.  Think it out… IF Eratosthenes’ experiment could “point to either model”, as you and Neil DeGrasse Tyson say, then…

    Can the size and/or shape of the earth be determined by observing two shadows?  YES or NO?

     

    #831925
     t8 
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    My best guess for 2 shadows is you first have to assume the world is round, then yes, you could probably work out the circumference. My thinking if Tyson is right, then there is a 50% chance of the world being round or flat on the outset at least. It is possible if Tyson is correct that Eratosthenes saw the result as pointing to the round earth and may have not realised it works on a Flat Earth too. I am only saying this if Tyson is right and I am making an assumption on top of that.

    But Tyson mentions that a third well which I assume Eratosthenes didn’t use in his experiment actually proves a globe earth. If I heard what he said correctly in that video you posted way back.

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     t8 
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    Can the size and/or shape of the earth be determined by observing two shadows?  YES or NO?

    I don’t know Mike, but I assume this is the case with Eratosthenes observation and Tyson seems to back him up. At least I think that is what the video was saying at least.

    But I do not know the answer. It seems like it could be true though, but I think you would have to know the true distance of the sun as well.

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    Tyson said the shape of the earth can be determined by three wells, or did I hear that wrong?

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    T8:  My best guess for 2 shadows is you first have to assume the world is round…

    Mike:  Can the size and/or shape of the earth be determined by observing two shadows?  YES or NO?

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    T8:  Tyson said the shape of the earth can be determined by three wells, or did I hear that wrong?

    He did make that erroneous statement, but that is neither here nor there, since the Eratosthenes experiment used only two shadows (not two wells, but one well and one stick = two shadows).   So please answer my question directly and honestly – with a YES or a NO.  There is only one correct answer, T8.  Please go on record as accepting that one correct answer.

    #831981
     t8 
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    Mike, it it is 2 questions.

    Yes, I think the size can be set ermined. But I think you need to know the distance to the sun. If it has to be a yes or no answer, then it is, ‘I DON’T KNOW’.

    As for the shape. Again I don’t know. But Tyson says 2 wells can point to either, but 3 wells to the globe.

    So officially, my answer is ‘I don’t know’ to both questions. But I have provided what I think it is.

    Not sure what these questions are trying to prove. You had me stumped as to your reasons in the other discussion.

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    My question is this.

    What is the single piece of evidence you can provide for the existence of the island called Madagascar?

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     t8 
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    Hi Mike. To save you posting some questions, I add this video in that debunks a number of Flat Earth ideas. Just trying to save time and debate that which has not been debunked satisfactorily for you.

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