June 13, 2018 at 7:41 am #830675
Nick, i thought you believe the devil makes us do what we do. Nick just as i and Jodi are telling you, the only demons are us doing evil. No cop outs. With all the tons of scriptures Jodi and i have tried to show youm you still reject them, why?
Jodi is right it is our minds serving “our” ownn lust,that cause us to sin. Do you think the serpent “caused ADAM and Eve to sin., i tell you NO, IT WAS Their OWN desires that caused them to. By disobeying God their Father. Was the propensity there, obviously it was or sin would never happened.
Trying to take away mans blame and transfering it to some thing else, is the way of the pagans who created all these demonic ideas in the first place. There is no “satan being” there is good and evil, SPIRITS, that works in all life FORMS. We will probably always be dealing with good and evil, as a balance of what actual life consists of.
Whats our advantage?, it the abiding Spirit of truth given to us by the Father, who can and will guide us forever, we are the temples he lives in, so we can live forever.
Without Him “In” us we would all fail, just as all the earth does after the thousand year rule of Jesus and the Saint’s clearly shows.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……geneJune 13, 2018 at 7:43 am #830676
If you say that there is no kingdom of Satan and demons are mirages;
Then you join in with those calling Jesus a liar.June 13, 2018 at 7:53 am #830678
You cannot take some of the words of Jesus Christ and agree that they are from the Spirit
and reject other words as just pagan superstition.June 13, 2018 at 8:17 am #830682
NICK…Jesus spoke to them by responding to their words, not nessarely what he believed. You have to use the spirit of truth to read between the lines sometimes.
Here is just an example brother, do you really think a satan being could take the man Jesus to a tall mountain and show him all the kingdoms of the world, what mountain is that where you can see all the kingdoms of the world? I was the evil in his own mind the spirit of God was fighting with, jesus know who he was and what power was going to be desplayed through him and what power he had with God the Father, he wax definitely hungry and strongly desired food, and through he could turn those rocks into food m but the spirit of God mastered his own human thinking.
The battle Jesus was facing was not against another being, but against his own human nature, and the word of God that was “in” him. Thanks be to God, The Spirit of God was the winner. The test had nothing to do with a so call Satan “being” but with JESUS HIMSELF. Jodi also see it this way i think.
Nick, you need to come to see all the inventions, and false belifs of those JEW’S in his day. They went after all kinds of false God’s and idolatry practices, brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……geneJune 18, 2018 at 5:27 pm #831069
Did the Christ RECEIVE the first fruits or BECOME the first fruits?
You quote one then say the other.June 29, 2018 at 5:23 am #831568JodiParticipant
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They mean the same thing. He became that which he received. When Jesus was raised from the dead he received the firstfruits of God’s Spirit, becoming an eternal man.
The fruit of God’s Spirit eternal life
He received immortality and became immortal.June 29, 2018 at 7:06 am #831569
The earth was made before man.Then God fashioned a man of the dust of earth and breathed into the earthly creation.In the image of God man was created, but according to the breath, and not according to the flesh of earth. Man is like to God according to what came from the breath, his soul and his spirit.
God, Who is spirit and not of earth, chooses to remind man of his earthly origin.
’Remember man that thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return’
At death the spirit given to man returns to him yet the soul of man exists. And at death the flesh and blood and bones of man returns to dust. But the soul remains. Salvation of the soul is the purpose of faith. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom and neither did the flesh and blood of the one we follow.
You ignore the reality of Satan and vilify the flesh as the cause of all the problems of man. And yet you believe the flesh of the doomed earth can be saved. The redemption of the body is the promised new body. You are still reliant on what eyes have seen rather than that which is promised.
We too receive the gift of eternal life when we are reborn of the Spirit, if we walk in the Spirit. We have passed over from death to life. The sons of God are part of the new creation and cannot sin if they walk in the Spirit. The Spirit in us produces fruit of it’s nature and sin in the flesh leaves us at death so that the man who had died does not sin.
Death Is swallowed up in victory.June 29, 2018 at 7:37 am #831570
Nick…Jesus said to the Pharisies, you are of your “father” the devil, he was a liar, thief, and murder from the beginning. Do you have any idea who he was speaking about? Was it a mysterious satan being of somekind who existed from eternity?, or Cain who was evil and lied and tried to still the glory of Able and murdered him, right from the “begining of mankind”. You believe it was a devil being who did that, but scripture shows it was Cain, who embraced evil, and became the father figure of all the evil of this world. Satan is a medaphor for THE Evil in the MAN CAIN, if you can accept it.
Tell us have you ever seen a devil, or even heard one, or a satan being, or demonic being of anykind?, no but you have seen evil men right, possesed with evil that is “In” them haven’t you?
Peace and love to you and yours. …..geneJune 29, 2018 at 8:22 am #831571
He received eternal life at the Jordan.
What he received manifested at his death, when he visited the spirits in prison, and was seen by witnesses when he fulfilled the sign of Jonah, and was completed when he was lifted up from their sight to enter heaven. Since then he has manifested on earth at times in his new spiritual body.June 29, 2018 at 8:28 am #831572
Cain was a man.
Sin stood at his door and was welcomed in.
Cain is not the father of sin but the serpent in the garden, Satan, the devil, the dragon still uses human servants.
Those who serve Satan cannot also serve God.
Men choose life or death.
Choose life.June 29, 2018 at 9:35 am #831573
Nick…was it satan that made CAIN KILL ABLE did that come from a devil being or from the man Cain who did the evil, show a single scripture that say satan caused Cain to lie, and murder, it was Cain himself the let sin in not the devil as you may assume. As far as good and evil go they both existed at the same time GOD CREATED THEM. WHY, because it clearly says the come from “one” tree not two dlfferent trees in the garden. Good is what defines evil, evil is what defines good. You simply can’t have one present with out the other, the both define the balance in life.
Trust me Nick, men themselves are the evil doers, they do not need a satan to cause them to, the propencity to do good or evil is alread in us all, We were born with it.
The evil i did in my life (I did it) no one made me do evil, my own lusts drove me to, not some imaginary being of somekind going around Jumping in and out of me was causing me to sin. I take full responsibility for my sins. I try not to decieve myself Nick? By blaming something else for what i myself did.
I was completely dead in (my own) trasspasses and sins, i was marked for eternal death, until i was forgiven by my heavenly Fathers sacriffice for my sin, through my brother, my lord Jesus christ, who through the eternal spirit, gave his life for me. NO LONGER DOES ETERNAL DEATH THREATEN ME. THANKS BE TO GOD THE FATHER, AMEN.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……geneJune 29, 2018 at 12:16 pm #831576
Trusting you would take us off the path of truth.
You have your own views of scripture and they deny the kingdom of darkness.June 29, 2018 at 12:47 pm #831577
Nick….”kingdom of darkness” where does it say Satan’s kingdom is the kingdom of darkness. My how you add your interpretation to scriptures, there is no such thing as a “kingdom of Darkness”. Please produce your scriptures on the “kingdom of darkness”.
Are you talking about where Jesus said the childern of “the” kingdom shall be cast in darkness, and there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth? If you look at the word “the” there it should be translated “this” kingdom, he was talking about the people of that present day , the people in that kingdom, that would be cast into outer darkness. He was not talking about a “kingdom” of darkness, at all.
Man Nick you reall are messed up on this brother. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …..geneJune 29, 2018 at 12:55 pm #831578
Nick….So you say don’t trust me, that men themselves do evil right? So you are saying men do not do evil themselves right?, is that what you believe?
I think we are much better of being carefull of your views of what scripture are saying, in this case anyway.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……geneJune 29, 2018 at 1:49 pm #831580
You oppose the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Yet you will stand before him.
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