Did Jesus pre-exist before his birth on Earth?

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     t8 
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    Jesus said “before Abraham I am”. Nick and Gene say that before Abraham he wasn’t.

    Nick I believe he was the Word that was with God.

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    So if you believe Jesus preexisted was it as a man?

    Nick, when you believed that Jesus preexisted as testified by your early posts here, you were just as right as you are now.

    You are always right Nick, even when you change your mind. That is amazing isn’t it?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    When you can hear the Spirit in the mouth of Jesus and the prophets

    the morning star will have risen in your heart.

     

    Till then your stones cannot find their mark as you are in darkness.

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    Is Nick the judge who is always right, even when he changes his own opinions?

    Were you in darkness up until now?

    Are you in darkness now if you change again in the future?

    Those who are born of God, love. Is love the main reason for you being here?

    Lots of questions you can ask yourself.

    Once your own house is in order, then perhaps you can look at others.

    A wise man judges himself first. Then he can tell if he is capable of judging correctly.

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    Nick, one does get the impression that all are wrong unless they agree with you. You come across as a cult-leader wannabe. But no one seems to want to join your cult. Don’t give up your day job as they say. lol.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    We know you believe that Jesus always was the Word.

    That is unscriptural because he was yet to be conceived in his mother’s womb.

     

    You get him confused with the anointing Spirit of Christ.

    Tradition is still your guide it seems.

    Let go and listen to the Spirit.

     

    Was Jesus of Nazareth anointed by God with the Spirit to do the work of the Father?

     

     

     

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    Those who focus only on the human vessel have missed the message of God.

    God saves.

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    Who is focussing on the human vessel? Is it not you? We believe that Jesus is the Word of God. That he came in the flesh. The flesh is not the important thing here apart from it meaning he became one of us to save us. No it is the fact that he came from Heaven and was born holy and was baptised in the Father’s own Spirit. It is you and Gene who seems fixated with Jesus being this flesh thing. We teach him as the Word who became flesh as the son of God that God made all things through. Only in replying to your theology do we really speak such things because your words beg for this to be addressed.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    T8….Your problem is your lack of understanding that JESUS HIMSELF, is not the Word that came to be “in” him, that WORD WAS GOD THE FATHER, HE CAME TO BE IN JESUS, WHEN JESUS WAS BAPTIZED, by John the baptist at the Jordan river. God is a spirit, the (christo’s) or anointing spirit, that came to be “in” Jesus and can be in us also. Remember what Jesus said, I am “in” the FATHER AND THE FATHER IS “IN” ME, HE also said we can be “in” him and him “in” us. The holy spirit of GOD IS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR THAT TIES US ALL TOGETHER. “ONE GOD “IN” ALL AND “THROUGH” ALL”.

    T8. think about it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    ‘Word’ to the Greeks is ‘Logos’ and to the Jews it meant the execution of God’s will, see Psalm 33:6; 107:20; 119:89; 147:15-18. The Greeks understood it to be the intermediate agency by which God created the material realm. i.e., logos is the  bridge between God who is spirit and the material universe.

    We know that Jesus has that unique position between God and the Cosmis. We know that all things were created through him. We know that he is the firstborn of/over all creation. We know he became flesh. We know that he was sent into the world. And to cast away all doubt, we know that he is the son of God and that God created all through the son of God.

    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold …

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    to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

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    In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

    = ???

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    Yes the Spirit was in the beginning before Adam and any man.

    When You send forth Your Spirit they are created

    and You renew the face of the earth. Ps 104

     

     

     

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