Did Jesus pre-exist before his birth on Earth?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t,

    If you think Jesus was a God you deny the Holy Spirit.

    Not wise.

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     terraricca 
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    Nick

    Hi t,

    If you think Jesus was a God you deny the Holy Spirit.

    Not wise.
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    wrong ;only Jesus as given the spirit of truth to all that live by the truth ;

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t,

    So you have not been given the Spirit of truth.

    If you are in Christ ask for it.

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     942767 
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    Pre-existence or preeminence

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     942767 
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     t8 
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    who though he existed in the form of God
    did not regard equality with God
    as something to be grasped,
    but emptied himself
    by taking on the form of a slave,
    by looking like other men,
    and by sharing in human nature.
    He humbled himself,
    by becoming obedient to the point of death
    —even death on a cross!

    He existed in the form of God. He was in the form of God. Then he took on our form.

    Preeminence does not negate pre-existence. It almost implies it.  We see that the first-born was literally the first-born in scripture, unless that literal first-born lost the status, which resulted in that status being passed to another who was not the literal first-born. However, the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos is clearly written for us.

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     t8 
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    Hi t,

    So you have not been given the Spirit of truth.

    If you are in Christ ask for it.

    It’s amazing that you could know so much about other men. How is it that you know that all lack salvation but yourself?

    And if we accept your teaching without question and do it, are we then saved?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    If you see the work of the Spirit among men you will not need to develop speculative theories about those men.

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     t8 
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    Where is your work of the spirit? I hope it is not all the criticism you have for all others but yourself. That certainly doesn’t qualify.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    You see criticism in my questions?

    Then who has the problem?

     

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8,

    I have never said Jesus was a god.

    Do you think he was?

    Do you yet hear the voice of the Spirit in the mouth of Jesus Christ?

    When you do the morning star will have risen in your heart.

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     t8 
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    Hi t8,

    You see criticism in my questions?

    Then who has the problem?

    lol. The irony.

    irony-alert-ironic

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     t8 
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    I have never said Jesus was a god.

    Do you think he was?

    Ha. Did I accuse you of that. Did I ever say Jesus was a god.

    Back to the drawing board.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi t8

    So if you believe Jesus preexisted was it as a man?

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