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Hi Gene,
So looking at 2 Thess 2 and asking for scriptural proofs please.
When did the man of sin take his seat in the temple of God?
Was that the heavenly Temple?
Was it the new temple of the Body of Christ?
When did he oppose ?
When did he exalt himself above every so called god?
When did he claim to be God?
When did he display himself as being God?
When did the man become an image as you claim?
So many loose ends in your theory.
Nick….There are temples of God, both in heaven and also in the bodies of his saint’s, as it say, “know you not that your “bodies” are a temple of GOD, there is also the temple of God in heaven as revelation shows. But either way, JESUS is the “only” “man” who has taken his seat there, whether the temple in heaven or the temple in human hearts, makes no difference brother he is the only “man” existing there as a GOD, NO other “man” has ever taken his seat in any temple as a God or is being worshped as such.
Remember what it says, because they “fallen christanity” did not recieve the love of truth , God would send them a “strong” delusion in order for them to belive a “LIE”, That “lie” is that the “MAN” Jesus is a GOD. This False “IMAGE” OF Jesus turns the true conseption of JESUS into a FALSE IMAGE OF HIM. IT is this very “LIE” about Jesus that Jesus himself will destroy,by his own mouth at his return.
There is no real “man of sin” it is simply a “LIE” ABOUT JESUS HIMSELF.
You ask “when did he” do this or that, JESUS never did any of it, it was done by Satan himself working through the fallen church members, that is why it says it comes after the “working of satan”. Satan plan was to seperate humanity from THE MAN JESUS, so he created “A LIE” about Jesus.
You also ask when did he become an “IMAGE”? WHEN these fallen ones under the sway of SATAN turned the true JESUS unto the JESUS THE WORLD BELIEVES TODAY. Didn’t JESUS himself say, ” many” would come “in MY NAME” saying I AM and “DECIEVE” many. It all had to do with the perceptions of JESUS that would decieve people.
Nick…..who would ever believe any man on this earth is A GOD, and WORSHIPED him AS SUCH, no one in there right mind would believe that today. Paul in 2th2 was prophecing about what would be taking place within the church, PAUL and John were both concerned about what was taking place inside the churches, not the world as some persume, they could care less about the world, they were not concerned about the world, it was the churches they were writing to, not this ungodly world.
Think about this Nick, listen to the spirit, it will bring to mind all the supporting scriptures. i know you are fully capable of understanding it.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Hi Gene,
unconvincing.
None of the verses say what you say.
You seem to dress up your own ideas in biblical type language – but they remain your ideas.
Nick…..well it might seem that way, but go a reread 2ths2, with these things in mind’
1….who do you know that is a man and now siting at the right hand of GOD, and is being worshped and desplayed as a GOD?
2….Does it not say that because they recieved not the love of the truth , God would send them a deluding spirit inorder for them to believe “A LIE”. Tell me what “LIE” WERE THEY TO BELIEVE?, WAS IT NOT A LIE ABOUT THIS MAN, BEING A GOD?
3….WHO do you know that is a man and is being worshiped as a GOD? IS IT NOT JESUS?
4….DID not Paul say that that iniquity was already at work., and indeed it was in the false teachings of the ANITCHRISTS, SUCH AS THE GNOSTIC’S, who was turning Jesus from a man into a God. This “LIE” was infecting the whole church, causing it to fall away from the truth.Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Hi Gene
Good luck in your search for truth. Read the words in our Christian bible that Christ reportedly stated the day before his death. The Spirut of Truth is our Route to Absolute Truth among all things.
2nd Timpthy 2:15 Paul told Timothy to Study to show thouself approved unto God, rightly dividing the word of Truth.
Complex even in those days when we had little access to the untold variables that should guide us on our path while in physical form here on earth. New variables often yield old truths to be transgenic truth as we journey through time.
time changes all things, only absolute truth passes time. Some among us might gesture the word God is a valid description of absolute Truth.
spirituality, defined by those among us who experience spiritual manifestation is difficult for others to comprehend, so complex spirituality in a realm that defies description in the words of humanity.
spirituality is a realm described by absolute truth if/when humanity discovers the variables that surround spirituality, a word to describe a reality that resides within the confines of a spectrum we also reside in but are currently unable to describe with the words of man because we are unable to identify, quantify or describe the variables.
perhaps Time, Study, metaphysical transcendal meditation, and Prayer in all its forms will continue to lead us into elevated awareness that provides a spiritual access into a reality where we are aware of the essential elements required to discover the ultimate end of humanity or whatever.
understanding biblical descriptions of heaven -vs- hell written at a time when our Anglo language reportedly had near 50,000 words, compared to now where billions of words are used within the language of humanity exposing the probability we are still in a preliteracy Era that only Information Technology can be used to sort out the linguistic variable alone, not considering other variables like; Energy, geological, physiological, chemical, bacterial, viral, fungal, elemental~etc
artificial constructs used for simply sorting out and quantifying data to construct artificial matrices-matrix sufficient to predict the moment with a perspective into our future is in its infancy due to our entire system currently quantified and managed by the Laws and Statutes of humanity using a so-called case law system that actually redirects our efforts of discovery toward prior opinions of humanity. Defining whatever we can, cannot do as determined by lawyers judges, tribunals, sub-cultures whose opinions are the only ones we must obey. It’s as if INSTEAD OF DICTATORS, KINGS, we suddenly have enormous numbers of people who determine everything for everyone else. To further complicate our present reality money can be used to alter the judicial opinion to allow wealthy people to be immune to laws others must obey.
the most powerful gangs among us have gathered under our reformed education system that goes beyond literacy and methods of discovery. These gangs have developed an ” academic caste system ” whereby those accredited with diplomas are given authority over humanity in certain subjects of study like; law, medicine, accounting, etc that gives gang members sole authority over human rights, actions, property rights, family, mines, wells, mills, manufacturing, transporting, warehousing, selling, whatever we use, consume, store etc etc. each day entire new volumes are written up to define new laws often written up by unethical predators using so-called lobbyists to bribe THEIR laws into statutes we are forced to endure
Gangs of lawyers-medical-financial groups etc adamantly refuse hardware-software data science systems that would reveal the danger of predatory laws and regulations and provide better direction for all.
these regulators are quietly shuttering us from research and development required IF we are to go forward into time with access to Truth.
our national heritage are being removed under a multicultural globalist experiment that ignores our religious heritage which in reality created our communication system, designed to incorporate new variables into our alphanumeric languages. These new rulers ignore the origin of our civilization and suddenly decide their Family Dynasties WHO HAVE SEIZED OUR ASSETS in a predatory fashion, have the power of opinion without considering the variables that surround their uninformed opinions. It’s becoming worse than dictators, kings, or rulers of all manner of human limitations.
While we have developed information systems to allow us access into Truth yet defined, our lawmakers are empowered by financial predators who use their power to rule the earth, resurrecting NOBILITY-SLAVERY back into our world under other words and laws.
Our religious heritage is an elemental part of who we are, our entire communication system our scientific progress,nethics, logic, morality, it’s who we are.
Other belief systems coming from primative cultures are being forced into our communities without considering the consequences. These belief systems are construed by legal statutes to be equal to our own, since they are intolerant of us, then their murderous, immoral, unethical, alogical acts are tolerated by the legal tribunals who determine whet we can do, thus our Christian Culture is destroyed by people incapable of equating simple logic, yet are endowed with the power of opinion over our entire Christian culture whose discoveries were leading the entire world into a better place in time.
the TURN THE OTHER CHEEK does not relate if we are to oppose demonic-satanic forces being forced into our Christian Society by the Legal Rulers of our Nation and indeed the world.
we have recently managed to empower a government attempting to change course from the current multicultural-globalist agenda fostered by our financial community attempting to create their so-called NWO or New World Order, whereby the central bank system leads the march into a world whereby these Family Dynasties control our cash flows our resources of goods and services, our manufacturing made by virtual slaves, sold by hireling servants into THEIR VISION of what our world is.
it remains to be seen IF we can resurrect our christian nation from its current path
we can only, hope, pray, and conduct ourselves according to the way we were before our NWO began to occupy our government. The significant problem already here are an enormous population from other not-christian nations who unlike ourselves are intolerant of Christianity and they are currently under protection of LAW who force us to ABANDON the Christian Nation we were before the LAWYERS-JUDGES-BANKSTERS-FINANCIAL MONSTERS decided to end our Christian Nation.
” God Bless the United States of America “and may we endure Making America great again.
There is No Other God than Absolute Truth, the meaning of our GOD which without we are nothing but servants for human monsters that define our end of a better life through Truth.
In spirit of truth……if any man has the spirit of truth given him by God the Father, it will guide him into all truth. Just as it says in scriptures.
John 16:13….Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak: and he shall shew you things to come.
1 John 2:27…but the anointing which you have recieved of him abides in you, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anoimting teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no “lie”, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him.
We have no need of a teacher because the spirit itself teaches us.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi Gene,
Test all things.
Hold fast to what is good.
Test your dogmas by the Word of God.
One verse wrongly interpreted is no foundation.
Hi Nick
from reading religious scripture it appears our bibles seemingly ever changing over time originally from language species either translated from translations and/or from languages no longer spoken may be the word of God or the word of men interpreted from,other words of men. Are messages whose meanings are as different as those who read our bibles. Since no one is the same, it’s difficult to determine any form of universal religious truth considering religious literature may be considered intangible, with meaning to those who read and interpret according to their/our individual perspective.
can it be the word of man in the form of absolute truth is the word of God ?
while the changes in scripture on one scale is the omission of entire books and on a lessor scale little changes in grammar.
Help,me out here with the meaning of dogma or one verse misinterpretation ?
thanks, await your perspective to clarify understanding of scriptures
Hi In the Spirit of truth,
Thy Word is truth. Jn 15
The living bread of scripture feeds the soul. Jn 6
My faith is in the Spirit that wrote the scriptures through men. 2 Peter 1
I know that God protects His truth. But doubters will always doubt the ability of God . Jas1
The influence of men is less important as we have the ability to compare verses and find parallel verses to establish truth.
2cor 13.1
To all……There are many scriptures that have been corrupted by the GREEK language and misinterpreted some words even use ten to twenty different meanings for the same word. You must be lead to understand them by the SPIRIT OF TRUTH that abides within us. If a person has not the SPIRIT OF TRUTH ABIDING IN HIM, he simply will not understand many scriptures that are written. JUST AS JESUS , THEY HAVE EARS TO HEAR BUT UNDERSTAND NOT, EYES TO SEE BUT PERCIEVE NOT.
Mark 4:12…”that seeing they may see, and not percieve, and hearing they may hear, and not understand, lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
Peace and love to you all and yours……….gene
Hi,
2 Peter 1.19
So we have the prophetic Word made more sure, to which you do well to any attention as to a lamp shing in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts
Who is the Morning Star?
Rev 22.16
I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you these things for the churches.
I am the root and the descendant of David,
the bright morning star.
So when the Spirit of Christ rules and teaches in your heart you will grasp the prophetic word.
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