2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus

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     Lightenup 
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    Gene,

    you asked:

    So now, because i disagree with you i am arrogant? Is that the way you view people who disagree with you. Jesus told us to have Salt in yourselves “and” have peace.

    Actually I do not know why you are arrogant, maybe you can tell me. I certainly do not view people who disagree with me as arrogant just because they disagree with me. I view people as arrogant when they rudely and falsely accuse me or others of something and call it “fact” when in fact, they are clearly wrong and it is clearly proven. For instance, you questioned whether or not I even knew the definition of love as if I didn’t even know what love was. When actually I put the definition of love from 1 Corinthians 13 in my first post on this topic and told you to read it several times and answer the question in the first post. It seemed like there was some sort of disconnect within your comprehension for you to suggest that I didn’t even know what love was when it was I who put it in the first post to begin with.

    And now, you remind me to have salt in myself and have peace. Actually the salt is what we season our words with to help them ‘taste better’ to the one they were intended for. The salt in our words is not meant to be something we rub into the wounds of the recipient with an arrogant attitude. If arrogance is your attitude in your speech, what good is your message? It neither lifts up the person nor gives life. Arrogance is not love, boastfulness is not love either. Neither will bring peace to those who around it.

    If you want to promote peace be kind with your words, patient when wronged, etc.

    1 Corinthians 13

    1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.

    4Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    #831559
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    Nick,

    1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.

    Does that not say to do works out of love as opposed to doing works without love.

    That passage tells us that our actions without love profits us in no way. Love must come first, then works to be profitable.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    You missed the question.

    When did our Master demand that we love him?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    1Peter 1.8

    In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while , if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials, so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honour at the revelation of Jesus Christ; and though you have not seen him, you love him, and though you do not see him now, but believe in him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.

    You suggest we make an effort to do what is natural for us?

    Wake up.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU ,

    Lk 17.7

    Which of you, having a slave plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field,

    ’Come immediately and sit down to eat,’

    But will he not say to him,

    ’Prepare something for me to eat, and properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink, and afterward you may eat and drink’?

    He does not thank the slave because he did the things which were commanded, does he? So you too, when you do all the things which are commanded you say,

    ’We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done.

     

    Know your place and be careful to obey.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    Lk 13.13

    And someone said to him,

    ’Lord, are there just a few being saved? ‘

    and he said to them,

    ’Strive to enter through the narrow door, for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. Once the head of the house gets up and shuts the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock on the door, saying,

    ’Lord, open up to us!’

    then he will answer and say to you,

    ’I do not where you are from’

    Then you will begin to say,

    ’We ate and drank in your presence; and you taught in our streets’

    And he will say,

    ’I tell you, I do not know where you are from; depart from me, all you evildoers..’

     

    We serve a master who expects more commitment evidence than just professed love.

    There is no group entry.

    #831583
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    Hi Nick,

    you asked:

    When did our Master demand that we love him?

    He doesn’t demand that we love him.

    you said:

    We serve a master who expects more commitment evidence than just professed love.

    Do you think that I do not know that?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    So why did you make up the idea that the Son of God needs our love?

    Stay within scriptural bounds is my suggestion.

    ‘ Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching does not have God;’

    2 Jn 9

    #831608
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    Nick, I don’t think that I said that the Son of God needs our love. Can you show me where I said that Jesus “needs” our love?

     

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    Hi LU,

    You said he DESIRES our love.

    Is this written or just your own idea?

    #831613
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    Nick,

    Are these two statements the same or very different:

    Jesus needs our love.

    Jesus desires our love.

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    Nick,

    Do you think that Jesus desires our love after reading these two verses? Do you think that Jesus is saying that you are to love him as much as you love your father and mother, sons and daughters or more than your father and mother, sons and daughters?

    John 14:21

    He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”

    Matt 10:37

       37He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    So those in his body show their love for him by obedience.

    Their devotion to him is shown by putting his commands before even our own family.

     

    But you think proclamations of love are useful?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi LU,

    So where does it say that Jesus desires our love?

    #831617
     Lightenup 
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    Nick,

    you asked:

    So where does it say that Jesus desires our love?

    I just gave you two verses that you can deduce that from.

    John 14:21

    He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”

    Matt 10:37

       37He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.

    you asked:

    So those in his body show their love for him by obedience.

    Their devotion to him is shown by putting his commands before even our own family.

    But you think proclamations of love are useful?

    Absolutely! Don’t you?

     

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