• Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Danny,

    Are you kidding me!! Did Moses ever claim to be the “Son of God”? He was a prophet to the people of Israel. God used Moses to “lead” the people of Israel and was not a conduit for “salvation” (the people were “delivered” out of Egypt, “saved” wouldn’t be the correct word choice); in fact Moses tried to take the sins of the people on hims…[Read more]

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    @desiretruth

    You: Realizing salvation is from God and not thru or because of anyone?

    Me: Did God save the Israelites from Egypt through Moses?

    Your answer to that question will be the answer to your statement.

     

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Where do I begin with this butchering of God’s word?

    You have NEVER answered the important question of who is speaking where in Isa 52:13-53:12. Jonah isn’t a prophecy about Jesus; he was a prophet to the city of Nineveh. Jesus only made a correlation to Jonah “as Jonah…so will…for three days and three nights”; except Jesus was cru…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    What does it mean to be “circumcised of the heart”?

    If physical circumcision means nothing why does God say “Thus says the Lord Yahweh: “Every foreigner uncircumcised of heart and uncircumcised of flesh shall not come into my sanctuary—not any of the foreigners who are in the midst of the Israelites.” (Ez 44:9) This is the “walk throu…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    You: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY OF NATHAN!

    ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

    Me: Thank you for putting this at the top; I don’t have to read any further, because the rest of what you will say will be foolishness.

    What part of Numbers 1:2 e…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT, you said…..>Let’s not forget his forked tongue in I Cor 15:3-4 where he says “according to scripture.” Of course all of christendom says Isa 53 is your answer; what about the second part of Paul’s statement? Where does it say the messiah was to be buried and raised up on the third day?

    me…..> Jesus said it himself,……Mat 12:40……>[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    You: Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked  for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness 

    ME: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY  OF NATHAN!

    ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

    This is also also in contrast to Matthew, as Luke begins his genealogy with his own time and goes ba…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    Me: I’ve already said all I can; all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed.

    You: ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

    Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness and his lineage was restored to David’s throne and listed as a descendant of Jesus. Even if we were to write this of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    YOU: <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>I’ve already said all I can; </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed. </span>

    ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

    Also, the prophecy need mean no more than Jeconiah’s immediate sons wouldn’t be kings because the Babylon…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hey there DesireTruth,

    YOU: Time to move on; speak on Gal 5:1-12 and how the Jewish male is suppose to accept the Jesus as Paul teaches circumcision doesn’t matter; and relate that to Gen 17:1-14. My assessment of Paul stands; he’s a liar, manipulator, and deceiver; and he’s real good!

    ME: How about we relate it to not only Genesis 17 but addit…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    You: Isn’t that what you’re doing in Paul’s case, ” I ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES…..”

    Me: Funny, I am being condemned for “not reading” all of what Paul says and not putting his words into “context”; yet, this is the same thing that is being done with the Tanakh to support/prove the christian theology. Pick a verse here and there claiming it…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Jodi,

    There seems to be a level of confusion is what we are talking about; what I “don’t care about” is the “equality in giving” you keep inserting into this verse and equating “donations” and “giving” to being paid for services. Paul specifically tells those in Corinth “I robbed other assemblies, taking WAGES from them that I might serve you”;…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    You: Couple issues with this passage and claiming it speaks of Jesus; the most glaring and obvious, Jesus was never called “Immanuel.”

    Then I would encourage you to read chapter 7 in its entirety (as Jodi says context, context, context and Gene says we shouldn’t be “cherry picking” – like picking one verse out of 25 and not applying it…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi DT,

    YOU: I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Paul’s wording; his choice of wording for being paid is beyond poor; it’s insulting, to say you “robbed” those who paid you for your teachings!

    ME: You say you could care less about everything else, but you yourself said, “the question is why would he refu…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hey there DT.

    YOU: I Cor 15:9 “For I am the least of the apostles, who is not worthy to be called an apostle,” and then look at II Cor 11:5 “For I consider myself not at all inferior to those “super-apostles.” You don’t consider this egotistical?

    ME: The “super apostles” Paul speaks to in chapter 11 he clearly identifies as FALSE apostles[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    You posted from Jews for Jesus (sigh):

    “The necessity for this exception to the rule became apparent when Isaiah 7:14 prophesied that the Messiah would be born of a virgin:

    “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call his name Immanuel.”

    Couple issues with thi…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Danny,

    Why don’t you do a big Bible study instead of asking all these questions? You seem like a “young christian.” Instead of telling me to “study”, maybe take your own advice and not rely on the words of those whom you think are telling you truth and verify these words for yourself.

    Try using Biblehub. There you can find good comment…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    Since we like beating dead horses; who, on payday, says they “robbed” the employer? Most would say their employer “robbed” them looking at the paycheck amount. Who, when providing a legitimate service requiring payment, says they “robbed” the individual? I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Pau…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You preach the law still stands right? Are God’s “laws” not eternal? Jesus seems to think so; didn’t he say that not a stroke or smallest letter will disappear from the “law”?

    then when was the last time you sacrifice a lamb for your sins? What did David say concerning sacrifices (Ps 51:16-17); , what did Solomon say concerning…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi DT,

    YOU: What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would you call the term positive or negative?

    ME: Your questioning of “what emotions” conjure in me when I hear the term “robbing”, all the more tells me you aren’t at all invested in sound reasoning and the context of the situation. We are to find tru…[Read more]

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